Ferdinand Marcos: NOT A HERO
July 29th, 2005 at 12:53 am (General, National Politics)
For God knows what reason, the debate regarding the burial of former President Ferdinand Marcos at the Libingan ng mga Bayani has been re-opened for the nth time. I am on the anti side.
I am against it simply because the Libingan ng mga Bayani is a burial site commemorating the heroism of Filipino heroes who lived noble lives and most of whom sacrificed themselves to advance the rights of the Filipino people and to fight for and uphold the democracy of the Philippines.
Is Ferdinand Marcos a hero? Of course not. He might have been a president and he might have served the interests of a very select segment of the population (ie his family and friends) but he did nothing heroic. He plundered the country and ignored basic human rights.
Another argument of those for the burial of Marcos in the Libingan ng mga Bayani contend that he should be buried there simply because he was the president. What they fail to realize, however, that being president is not enough to become a hero. More than the position one holds, is how he uses the power given to him. Do we simply herald him a hero by burying him there just because he was the president? I hope not.
Does Ferdinand Marcos deserve to be buried at the Libingan ng mga Bayani? OF COURSE NOT! Doing so, would not only be wrong, but it would be an insult. It would be an insult to the millions of Filipinos who died and suffered during the Martial Law Regime. And more importantly, doing so would be an insult to the memory of real heroes who are buried at the Libingan ng mga Bayani.
Ferdinand Marcos was never a hero. No matter what his family and friends believe, Ferdinand Marcos had never, does not and will never deserve to be buried in the Libingan ng mga Bayani.
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mell ditangco said,
July 30, 2005 at 12:13 pm
wasn’t marcos a soldier in ww 2 against the japanese?
Maria said,
July 31, 2005 at 4:16 am
And your point is?
Edwin Lacierda said,
July 31, 2005 at 10:58 pm
Alleba,
Your article is reeking with contempt for the Marcoses and that is good. Nobody in his right mind would even consider burying FM in those hallowed grounds.
But come to think of it, have you ever wondered what is the criteria for being buried in the Libingan? I have never bothered to research on that. Is it if you were a previous member of the armed forces? I think Arlington Cemetery in the States has that requirement. Or do they.
Maria said,
August 1, 2005 at 7:12 am
Libingan Ng Mga Bayani
Located at the heart of Metro Manila, this shrine was established as a fitting tribute to the gallant men who brought honor to the country and who died for the sake of freedom and democracy.
Proc. No. 208 dated May 28, 1967
Location : Taguig, Metro Manila
Area : 1.42 hectares
Commemoration Day - During Veteran’s Week (Sunrise and Sunset Ceremonies)
a direct quote from the
Philippine Veterans’ Office Website
mell ditangco said,
August 1, 2005 at 6:49 pm
Maria,
here is an interpretation of proc 128.
The Libingan Ng Mga Bayani is under the administration and maintenance of the Grave Service Unit (GSU), a unit of the Philippine Army Support, Armed Forces of the Philippines. The mission of the GSU is to provide grave services to deceased military personnel who died in line of duty or were honorably discharged, Filipino veterans, former presidents, government dignitaries, statesmen and national artists. Aside from maintaining the LNMB and the military grave site at Manila North Cemetery, the unit is also capable of providing mortuarial and memorial services to authorized personnel.
http://corregidorisland.com/bayani/libingan.html
i was merely suggesting under proc 128, marcos is qualified to be buried in the libingan ng mga bayani.
todays heroes may become tomorow’s villains. just a thought.
Maria said,
August 1, 2005 at 7:52 pm
Qualified, yes. Deserving, no.
Major Tom said,
August 1, 2005 at 11:20 pm
Only if we didn’t suffer the dark days of Martial Law, then maybe then, the proposition to bury FM in Libingan ng Mga Bayani would not sound as ludicrous as now.
Don Carlo Quita said,
September 12, 2006 at 2:41 am
What is the basis of your hatred for President Marcos. Yuo do not know what is the absolute truth. You only know what is relatively true(what you think is). Did you not know that he is the most accomplished president the Philippines ever had. Did you not know that Ninoy wanted to be in jail more than accept the help of Marcos with regard to Ninoy’s sickness. Did you not know that Ninoy knew of the Plaza Miranda bombing before it begun. He did not care to tell it to his fellow Liberal Party candidates. Only after the bombing did his companions know that he had knowledge of the event. That is why he was not there. It is mind over matter that confuses people to think who is the righteous and who is the wicked. There is elevation. The more you perform better for the economy(which is mistaken by politicians as to gain power) the greater the minds that will attack you. That is politics. The people power arised because of false/twisted truths given by enemies of Marcos. The Philippines had little debt while in the governance of Marcos. It only grew bigger right after the People Power. The time when the seat of presidence is of Cory Aquino. That was the start of the continuous decline in the economy of the Philippines. That was the victory and reign of politics.
Don Carlo Quita said,
September 12, 2006 at 3:05 am
Martial law was, for me, a right decision made by the former president. His weakened stature as president, from the continuous attacks of his numerous political enemies, forced him to declare Martial Law as Ninoy predicted(or maybe even planned) and announced. Martial law was the best way to discipline the people they become criminals giving rules like curfew and the like. The only wrong thing Marcos did was to trust the military enforcers very much. Of course he thought that given the training which he experienced himself, the soldiers are now disciplined and carries the words Courage, Loyalty and Integrity in their hearts and minds. Well he thought wrong, he was an idealist who wants his ideals to materialize. Look at our economy now. How people act today like acitvism and rebellion determines and shows what they are now. The people have turned into hypocrites, fools, and backstabers. All because of lack of discipline. He was the most honest president the Philippines ever had.
My father,as a military official, was talking to a foreign official during his stay away from Philippines. This is how the conversation goes:
Foreign Official: What happened to Philippines? In Marcos’ time, the government and the economy was far better. Now the place is chaotic and messy!
My Father looked at him and said one simple phrase. A phrase with great meaning.
He said: Too much politics.
Don Carlo Quita said,
September 12, 2006 at 3:06 am
Qualified yes Deserving Definitely
Maria said,
September 12, 2006 at 3:39 am
Don Carlo Quita, my bases for my hatred for Marcos are the thousands of Filipinos were mercilessly tortured and killed, the hundred sho remain lost until this day, and the thousands more who suffered in silence.
kronos251 said,
October 25, 2006 at 4:40 am
The Philippines, as of to-day, is doomed perhaps beyond repair.
For once, Look beyond your pain.
Should we all blame EVERYTHING to Marcos?
The reason why there was a decline in the economy during the Eighties was because of the Iraq-Iran War (1981-1982). Saddam Hussein and Ayatollah Khumeini were holding the oil hostage against the world; and practically everybody, in nearly every country, be it communist or not, were suffering because of this type of strangulation.
So this can also be said a decade earlier, during the Israel-Palestinian War (1971-1972).
It was a tumultuous time back then. The Communists were in power, their height in the 1960’s, 1970’s; nearly half the world was in the grip of despair.
-China
-Malaysia
-Indonesia
-Laos
-Cambodia
-Vietnam
-Thailand
-The African States
-Latin America
-Jordan
-North Korea
… almost all, except the Philippines. Had Marcos not declare martial law and suspend the writ of habeas corpus, we would’ve gone the way of those countries mentioned. Communism is an elusive enemy. It can penentrate the Media. If you couldn’t remember how LBJ, Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr. lauded Marcos’ staunch stand against the Reds, perhaps you’d like to go here: www.presidency.ucsb.edu.
Being a respectable journalist that you are, go directly into the source. Look into their speeches that mention the former president. Scroll down directly under the First Bush-Dukakis Presidential Debate, and see how George Bush sympathizes about Marcos’ plight at the time, about how “his last combat mission (during WWII) was over Manila, and [he] knew that [Marcos] was fighting the imperialism down there.”
Reagan also remarked that, sadly, Marcos’ friends weren’t there when he needed them the most. The man, painted by the media as a butcher, had confused the United States and the entire world.
One may say that that’s a whole crock of nonsense, but how could 4 US presidents and the entire world be so sympathetic to Marcos during the 60’s and 70’s? How is it that the Philippines was second to Japan, as the most successful country in Asia?
The physical/tangible results:San Juanico Bridge,Folk Arts Theater,PICC(Phil.Intl Convention Ctr),CCP(Cultural Ctr of the Phils),Westin Hotel,Manila Hotel, ULTRA-Pasig, Kadiwa Ctrs, Natl Science Dev’t Board, New Central Bank Mint, Angat Dam-Central Luzon, Magat Dam-Mt Province, Malacanang in the North, Childrens Hospital, Phil Heart Ctr, Phil Kidney Ctr, Batasan Complex(Congress), The New Senate House-Luneta, GSIS bldg, SSS bldg, EPZA(Export Processing Zone Authority)-Baguio,Subic Bay,Mactan,etc.
The EPZA provided tax-free exports, and with an exchange rate as low as P4.00 (4 pesos) to $1, the Phils. were leading in manufacturing cars, appliance, and ships, among other things. Back then, China was closed to the world and Singapore was only backwater.
The world media coverage over the latter years of Marcos were as rabid as its news coverage on the Vietnam War. Unjust, and omitting, to the point of mocking the idealistic cause of extinguishing the prevalent communist nihilism. Sensationalizing to buy newspapers, but not history however. The truth shall set the righteous free.
I am not stating that Marcos was infallible—of course not. Nobody is. In the first place, he should’ve relinquished the Office since his health was declining. (He only had one kidney; he lost the other due to a grenade blast in WWII). Caesar Virata, the Phil. PM at that time, was a great man to lead the Philippines due to years of experience at IMF, and later on at the ADB, as a consultant.
Graft and corruption was prevalent, yes. Nepotism, yes. The Romualdezes have a lot to answer for, that I agree. Perhaps that’s why Marcos told his wife, in the hearing of the rambunctious world press in the island of Hawaii, “It is all your fault.”
To be fair, Imelda made a better job of governing Manila than any who succeeded her. Nepotism is not so much of a problem, if a person really is doing their job.
Sadly you cannot say the same thing to-day.
Had Aquino not step in to take the reins, this country we had loved and fought for wouldn’t be in such a mess. Her “kitchen cabinet” tactics, and the removal of the US bases in the Philippines had sealed the country into its own isolated suicide.
We are now the laughing stock of Asia. Instead of Japan, we’re now second to Indonesia; next to Ghana when the welfare of education is concerned.
I have never, in my entire life, felt so depressed for my own country. Democracy here indeed is dead. Such reasons force 3 out of 4 Filipinos to flee the country, to find a good life someplace else.
I am sure you feel the same.
But we must move on. We MUST move on. We cannot dwell so much in the past. Not anymore. Otherwise, the only solution is Civil War, the rich vs. the poor; the middle class in the meanwhile at the sidelines, half-way round the world, seeking asylum in a country other than their own.
Mrs.C. Dijkhuyzen said,
January 16, 2007 at 8:02 am
Wake up Filipinos,oh my God,that you voted the marcos children again in the government,and we your countrymen are all seperated with our families back home to send our salary to the Philippines?We only have two heroes,and that is Jose Rizal and Senator Ninoy Aquino who has freed us from Marcos dictatorship!Imee marcos lived a royalty life with her siblings while we were so poor in the PhilippinesNo more marcos in the higher office,Wake up Pinoys don’t be stupid and blind!From all Pinays in EuropeImelda admitted that she is the richest person in the Philippines!Wake up Pinoys!No more Marcos!Don’t believe that crook story about gold trading oh please that’s only saving face,show evidence,let’s see them!!!!Wake up Pinoys
Don Carlo Quita said,
February 26, 2007 at 4:53 am
I agree with kronos251. I disagree with Mrs.C. Dijkhuyzen. Imee, at the time Cory began to sit as president, saw and knew very well how they were stripped of any symbol of wealth by the new government. Their land was taken away from them even though it was legally and provenly owned. Until now, the Marcos family is trying to get back what they rightfully own in court. By the way, Marcos went to Kawaii not Hawaii.
Don Carlo Quita said,
February 26, 2007 at 5:26 am
Ninoy Aquino was a communist just as he supports the communist NPA. Cory, while in position, boosted the powers and strentgh of the NPA and even got so far on releasing some of the NPA leaders caught by the AFP.
Andrew said,
February 26, 2007 at 11:39 am
Waw. You Marcos die-hards must be living in other dimension. Which Marcos are you talking about again? Ferdinand Marcos plundered our land during his dictatorship that sent our country to shambles. Yes, we WERE second to Japan, but when Cory took office our country had already lost all its bragging rights. Basically, Cory had a big, big mess to clean up after Marcos. So don’t blame her. She may have been our weakest President in history, but what happened to our country can’t be pinned on her. The reason why everything went downhill was because every floodgate of democracy had been opened. Just imagine a country imprisoned for so long and suddenly set free. Of course there will be chaos!
And Don Carlo, please stop posting your ridiculous tidbits just to support your weak arguments. How the hell can you say that the new government “stripped” them of their wealth that was legally theirs?? In the first place, that wealth is owned by the government NOT the Marcos family! Sadly, the Marcoses are making a big comeback in politics. WHY? So they can get back all the wealth that they’ve stolen. Sheesh. And you dare call Ferdinand Marcos a hero? What did he do to deserve such an honor? How many lives did he save during his time?
Marcos should be buried in the Libingan ng mga Kupal!!
Don Carlo Quita said,
February 27, 2007 at 2:01 am
Sorry about the 14th comment. My brother wrote that down not me. He said he wanted to comment. Unfortunately, he used my name. The 15th is mine. Andrew, I guess you were “misinformed”( Don’t want to say “lying”, would you?). What? Your asking if it was “about who typed in 14th comment” or “your knowledge about the Marcos Family or Ninoy’s or how people think”? Hmmmm.. Well, actually it’s both. Yep, I’m sure it’s both.
P.S.
My younger brother also supports Marcos.
Although, I salute Ninoy and Cory for successfuly turning the good Ferdinand Marcos into a criminal. People actually believed them! Me, I don’t have the IQ to change hearts. And blinding people!
DAISY said,
March 12, 2007 at 11:25 pm
COMMENT ABOUT FERDINAND MARCOS
Gracie Dijkhuyzen said,
March 13, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Bury him in any corner,for all we care.What are we going to do with these people?
mirasol said,
March 14, 2007 at 12:53 am
The regime of the marcoses was a big trademark in our country Philippines.
Many people said that Marcos was an idiot.
For 20 years that they put there selves in the Malacanang Palace, many people died.
Gracie Dijkhuyzen said,
April 28, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Imelda spent 3 million dollars in one week in New York,I know because I was in new York too when she was shopping with those blue ladies!
kronos251 said,
May 8, 2007 at 5:19 am
We may seem like Marcos-loyalists, but we are not. We are more than willing to see things for what they are now, as you do too (even though you want to bite our heads off). And we do so calmly, and rationally, to point out the Truth.
Immature societies, like our own, often miss great leaders even if it hit them with a 2 by 4. Take for example, Abraham Lincoln, who declared martial law before the Civil War (1861). He was despised so much for his strong-arm rule, he was assassinated for it. Only after some 20 years does his country realize that what a great leader he became. That is what is happening today in the Philippines. Those who were old enough to see Laurel, Magsaysay, Quirino, Garcia, Macapagal Sr., Marcos, to Aquino, Ramos, Estrada and then Arroyo, can only understand what Marcos had done to the Philippines.
You have to be completely unbiased. Without any rancor in your heart. You practically want to sentence the Marcoses to hell, assuming you have the right information; Information from books, whose authors you are not entirely sure if they were paid to sensationalize just to make profit.
I am nearly 58 years old, a Fil-Am, I do not need a book, or visit another messageboard to educate myself. I remember, back in ‘71, it only takes P 5.00 (five pesos) to go from Rizal Ave. to Pampanga via Philippine Rabbit. P 11.00 at 1985. Dirt roads gave way to concrete roads and highways, Streets were cleaner, people were actually following traffic regulations; the foreign exchange rate was P 4.00 to $ 1. Yes, there were squatters, but they were not as deplorable and as many as they are today. Corruption was almost minimal, but there was still.
In the world’s stage, particularly in Asia, countries one would normally assume as economically viable were the: Democratic Republic of South Korea (DRSK), Taiwan (back then there was no Taiwan; only Red China), and Thailand (besieged by Laos/Myanmar/Vietnamese Communists) had economies practically closed to the global stock market. Their economies were in the doldrums. DRSK, Taiwan, and Thailand–and even Singapore and Hong Kong–were ambivalent to trade with; in the first place, investors are more comfortable with a free, Democratic Society. Japan, back in the eighties, still had the imperial stigma of World War II, however with the help of the Marshall Plan for over 40 years, it had become and is still the leading economy in the Asian continent, the second in the world.
That being given, those countries cannot be compared to the unique situation in the Philippines.
As I’ve said before, Communism is an elusive enemy. Had Marcos not declare martial law and suspend the writ of habeas corpus, we would’ve gone the way as half the world’s continents did.
Communism is reached through poor socio-economic divisions, wherein the Lenin and Marx philosophy counts heavily on the lack of faith in a democratic government. To hand down all rights, possessions of the people (bourgeoisie) to one elitist group, is the goal, so as to free men of any responsibility; to free men of any cause of war, in order to have peace. That is the communist goal. It is good on paper, yet not applicable in real life. Democracy encourages open trade policy: “You keep what you earn; Reap what you sow; A good day ends with a hard day’s work.”
That is why the common Filipino was and is continually impressed by statistical reports, and not just another book, newspaper, or magazine article in publication. They do not need the opinion of a reporter, biased or not, because they practically see the results everyday–the price of oil, rice, meat, the sanitation and maintenance of the roads they travel on, all having to do with good economics. Because frankly, people are not interested on politics that is too emotionally convoluted. In fact, they’ll go as far as despising the situation in which others could not get past the year, “1986″. Life is hard enough to support a family, and when a politician actually does his job–in this case, they say Marcos had done his job after all–they start to appreciate those statistical reports, and the tangibility of its implementation it ensued.
Quote by Andrew: “The reason why everything went downhill was because every floodgate of democracy had been opened. Just imagine a country imprisoned for so long and suddenly set free. Of course there will be chaos!”
Yes, but such chaos should not last for more than 20 years.
You’re asking the Filipino people not to blame Corazon Aquino, yet one of the most baffling moves of her presidency was to release every Kabataang Makabayan (KMB), Communist Party of the Philippnes (CPP) and New People’s Army (NPA) agent, as a sign of a “goodwill gesture” in 1987-1988. Imagine her reaction to the collapse of the USSR/Soviet Russia in 1989, only a year later.
Add to that the removal of the US bases in the Philippines (1991-1992), and that nearly sealed us into national suicidal isolationism.
Presently, we see the Marcoses coming back to office, therefore the Filipino people has and will hold themselves accountable.They know the history, the true history, and they don’t have to be convinced otherwise.
As for moving on, if we are unable to stop discussing a 20-year-old topic, and continually blame someone for our own mistakes, then what kind of future are we going to make for this country?
None. nothing. No future. Talagang hindi na uunlad itong bansa.
Ingrid said,
May 17, 2007 at 5:41 pm
Cory burried her dog in the “Libingan ng mga bayani.” Ano ba talaga?
Pagalilauan, jonel said,
June 6, 2007 at 5:29 am
MARCOS IS A HERO EVEN THOUGH HE KILLS MANY FILIPINO ACTIVIST IN THAT TIME………. HE IS A GOOD DICTATOR……..
Filipina said,
July 29, 2007 at 11:46 am
Marcos downfall……………..planned by US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
arlene said,
August 7, 2007 at 12:00 am
hi..
michael said,
August 7, 2007 at 1:22 am
This country needs another MARCOS to be able to recover from its economic privation and bring the back to its glory days.
We are already world class during MARCOS times, politician like CORY & GMA are dragging us down because of their Oligarchic - Democratic Policy
regine said,
August 30, 2007 at 8:29 pm
boooba met
regine said,
August 30, 2007 at 8:32 pm
hoy michael booba met!!!!!
regine said,
August 30, 2007 at 8:45 pm
well i guess there’s no need to argue about this matter because marcos’ remains or corpse will soon to disintigrate. why not just bury him in a place where he deserve. and one more thing is that, what matters most is we eat,we sleep, and we live…we survive!!!STARSTRUCK!!! thank you.
tony g. said,
October 4, 2007 at 1:55 pm
Erap was ousted by the same group of oligarchs who ousted Marcos in the name of people power. Filipinos are still victims of the influential old rich families. They want a friendly President. The poor are poorer now. Yes blame it on the Marcosses…convenient excuse. I have yet to see the evidences on the Marcos ill gotten wealth accusations. But Imelda had shown evidences on how her husband amassed wealth since 1946. Imagine the Philippine wealth to be a glass full. The Marcosses had a pitcher full. If their wealth were given to the government ,do you believe it will alleviate the poor? The thieves are waiting.
I used to hate them too….
Aleaxies said,
November 30, 2007 at 8:20 pm
Awww? you better shut up!
You don’t know the reality so better shut up your mouth and don’t say anything, okay……
AvanGo said,
February 18, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Well, it’s hard to judge. We don’t EXACTLY know what took place, only God knows. Plus, Philippines is supposedly a “Christian Nation” , why can’t we just forgive and forget if we really are a “Christian Nation”?
So STOP!
dlacadino said,
March 6, 2008 at 2:41 pm
sometimes a country needs this typ of government and off course you cant be the president of a country without the u.s. help but keep in mind marcos made the right decisions economically and politically dealing with americans ofr their money and the progress of filipinos today even the koreans and malaysians are passing the pinoy economy i am certain this would not have happened durning marcos’s watch lets be aware of that! also concerning his burial if marcos wanted to burried anywhere else in the world he could ov, but a true loyalist looking out for his own country would choose pinas and thats where we come to do you want to be run by chinese business men or a president that even chinese or chinese filipino businessmen are scared of also. for me im pro LOYALISTA and sometimes countries that have to much poor and need a hand out dont understand the truth in polotics and how money is to be made, if i gave out money to every little child that begged for it i would be doing a disservice to them especially to those who can work for it, but if a president is also keeping everthing on a equal level where people have a chance then i agree with his tactics and this is why he wanted to build the first nuclear power plants in pinas but again ignorance got the best of filipinos and today that is why pinas slowly tumbles dwn among other asian countries. See even the great President Marcos knew what he was doing in the late sixty’s and early seventies when he proposed the plant with the help of the U.S. please believe that the economy would be better today if marcos was not assassinated in hawaii by the CIA if you want to know more ask me i will tell you more before i pass away aswell…………..
unspottedfire said,
March 31, 2008 at 12:56 am
CORY was weak..
we were offered na mabayaran lahat ng utang made by marcos..
Guess what? she REFUSED the offer..
ah..pride and stupidity..
Marcos was a HERO in his own ways..
He fought against the japanese..just like our grandfathers..
His first 2 terms were properous..
He improved philippines… in his own way..
Nasira lang sha..Too much power can destroy a person’s good nature, we all know that. but here we are..karamihan sa aatin nag mamalinis.. the way we talk and condemn marcos.. parang wala tayong nagawang masama saating mga buhay..
You cant deny him a place sa libingan ng mga bayani because of the bad things he did.. lahat ng nkalibing sa libingan ng mga bayani ay makasalanan din.. it’s time to forgive.. Past presidents should be ashamed.. they pay too much attention sa public opinion (it’ll hurt them sa next elections kasi).. YOU ARE THE LEADER OF A CATHOLIC NATION.. ACT LIKE ONE.. It’s time to forgive people..
mlq3 said,
May 18, 2008 at 11:19 pm
the problem is one of terminology. president magsaysay renamed the national cemetery libingan ng mga bayani. however, heroism is not the criteria for burial there. it is, first and foremost, a veteran’s cemetery, and then, a state cemetery. there are areas reserved, for example, for past government officials (justices of the supreme court, e.g. fred ruiz castro, members of the cabinet, e.g. carlos p. romulo -both of whom were veterans- past afp chiefs of staff, etc.), and one area for philippine presidents, which is why garcia and macapagal are buried there.
if strict, official criteria (under the armed forces of the philippines, which has primary authority over the site) is to be followed, marcos complies with practically every variation of the official criteria. he was a veteran, an officer, a high-ranking government official, and he was president.
the solomonic solution is to set aside the area where veterans are buried and call it the libingan ng mga bayani, and the area where government officials are buried, and call it pambansang libingan or something. the marcoses actually have a point, because if his portrait still hangs in malacanan as a former president then he’s still entitled to the privileges of his office, which includes burial beside diosdado macapagal.