Alleba Politics

Divorce in the Philippines

March 20th, 2005 at 4:01 pm (General)

I recently read in the papers that the Catholic Church is again blocking Rep. Liza Masa’s recent attempt at a Divorce Bill. A Bishop has alleged that a divorce bill would be unconstitutional because the constitution says something about the protection of the family as the basic social unit.

However, this argument can be used for both sides of the debate. The pro-divorce side (which, I am so obviously on) can contend that by legalizing divorce, the sanctity and quality of marriages can be improved. The debate boils down to staying in an unhappy and irreparable marriage or giving up on it despite the promise to love each other “til death do us part.”

For me, however, the biggest arguments against divorce are the consequent illegitimacy of the children and the high price (both financially and emotionally) of annullment. Once a marriage is considered null, the children of the un-couple immediately become “illegitimate” and would consequently take on their mother’s maiden family name. ISN’T THAT JUST PLAIN CRUEL??? It’s a cliche but children are unwilling victims here. And considering the majority of the Philippines are tethering below the poverty line, the time, money and resources needed to file and get an annullment is beyond the regular Filipino’s means. Thus, a lot of them resort to “informal”/illegal separations and/or co-habitation which yield more “illegitimate” children. Moreover, they are deprived of leaving their failed marriage behind.

I guess the opposition of a lot of people to divorce stems from the divorce culture in other countries such as USA. However, we should note that the grounds and requirements for divorce that are proposed in Rep. Maza’s bill are more stringent than those imposed in the USA. We can have legalized divorce here in the Philippines without being reduced to a nation composed of people who marry just because divorce is just around the corner in case it fails.

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maria fatima said,

April 1, 2005 at 6:35 am

why do bishops have to stop people from having a divorce in the phils. Not everyone is of catholic faith, if catholics want to remain imprisoned in marriages which are not working anymore at all angles (after so many tries and for a long time)…. please let us have our divorce and mind your own business, catholics.
rosemarie said,

April 7, 2005 at 10:43 pm

lets face reality that it is not always a happy ending,we are 2 people have two diffirences and they cant tell we didnt give it a try to save the family.Probably that will be the last resort of being happy than being in hell with your husband.Bakit yang mga pari di na lang ang problema nila sa simbahan ang isipin nila like molestation.All i know there is a separation of the church and state….. right!!!!
angel said,

April 8, 2005 at 10:29 pm

“Once a marriage is considered null, the children of the un-couple immediately becomes “illegitimate” and would consequently take on their mother’s maiden family name.” –> there is a difference b/w a marriage which is null and void from the beginning and a marriage that is merely voidable or annullable.
–> for annullable marriages, the Family Code provides that the children of the un-couple will retain their legitimate status even if the marriage of their parents are annulled provided that they are conceived or born before the decree of annulment is handed down.
–> for void marriages, the general rule is that those children conceived or born inside a void marriage are illegitimate; exception– if the ground for nullity is psychological incapacity under Article 36 of the Family Code, the child is legitimate if s/he is conceived or born after the marriage of the parents and before the final judgment of nullity.

(Reference: Article 54 of the Family Code)
maylene said,

May 3, 2005 at 3:32 am

i agree with the divorce. we all have the freedom of choice and that freedom doesnt end when we get married. and i believe that nobody has the right to make our life miserable. if we continue to leave in a worn out marriage then we are jeopardizing or depriving ourselves with the ultimate purpose of life, that is, to be happy.
Ryan said,

May 28, 2005 at 2:18 pm

I hope I can provide some insight to this topic. I want you to know I respect everyones opions.

I live in the US and I come from a divorced family.
I am 25 years old and even thought the divorce was over 10 years ago, there is still a lot of anger in my life.

I want to say one very important thing:

DIVORCE DOESN’T SOLVE PROBLEMS, IT ONLY CREATES NEW ONES.

For example, suicides, drug use, etc.

By making divorce easy (just a meere $5 and a signature), you open the door to people that have entered into marriages and easy and quick exit.

They don’t have to work at “fixing” anything.

If people know that divorces are hard, they will think about getting married, and when they are in them they will work to keep them good…and if they become bad, they will have to work at them to resolve the issues.

Growing up in the US, I am freightened by our divorce rate..pushing 54%? or was it much more?

What is the point? Sometimes it feels its not whether you will get divorced, but when.

That is a very sad thing to think about.

I can see when divorce is necessary…like in physical abuse…but to grant divorces to people that dont have problems is sad.

I understand ones right to freedom…so if that is her/his objective in life, go to the doctor and become infertile…and go out there and play.

I really beleive us men in the world really want a happy family….well, no one wants a divorce.

Just remember, we are not here for a long time, we are here for a good time. Be nice to eachother out there in the world!

Ryan
rowena salmo said,

June 4, 2005 at 8:14 am

I just don’t understand why catholic church is against in divorced? Do they don’t like people to be happy?

There is alot of Filipino suffering for failed marriage and even they want to move on they can not do it because they were tied up with marriage.

There was a time in our life that we think everything is perfect,that we do a right decission in our life. We get married thinking that we found the perfect mate for us, but after a month or year… you will find out that hapiness is a hell.

If everyone knows what is in the future nobody will get married. How you can move on if you are not happy anymore? Are you gonna tied up your self because of the bow you made before even your husband is beating you?, even he didn’t support the kids anymore? even he found somebody else and leave you without minding the responsibilities with the family?

Most Filipina woman try to workout the marriage no matter how hard it is on their part, but most of the time it’s the husband who failed to do their part. Why not give some other woman have a chance to move on be happy. If marriage will going to work out there is no reason to file divorced but if not worked out why not get divorced? It’s a matter of choice because it means life and happiness………how we can make a choice if no choices….everybody needs to be happy so please give a chance for those who suffered for wrong marriage.
levis said,

June 27, 2005 at 9:00 am

I am one of the victims of, i called it, false marriage.
I have been suffering a lot from this misery. I really don’t understand why divorce in the Philippines is still being opposed in these days. We are living in a modern world. Let’s face realities in life. Let me suggest to those opposers to think and imagine how miserable a life would be and for what reasons a marriage should be kept for upon my grounds. How if both parties are already not living together anymore for a number of years and parted ways because they really are not suitable for each other for many undeniable reasons. A marriage life is unhappy.How if the other party is irresponsible, immature, drug-addict, cruel, stubborn,womanizer,etc.
I also do partly understand the stand of the church , but they must also be considerate. They are only hindering somebody to become happy and bringing life to misery which against god’s will. So please, let’s give them or US the freedom to be happy and the FREEDOM to live again…………..you opposers and catholics!!!!!!!!!!!please allow divorce in the Philippines.
Trevor Johnson said,

September 26, 2005 at 2:06 am

So the catholic church is opposed to divorce in the Philippines but why only the Philippines as there are people who are catholic worldwide.My thought is that religion has nothing to do with the opposing of divorce in the Philippines its all down to politics as the catholic chuch in the Philippines seems to have more power than the goverment as shown in the removing of president Marcos.The catholic church as in any religion is supposed to be for everyone to enjoy not for people to suffer as alot of Filipino wives do from bullying lazy husbands who have no respect for their families so please president Arroyo show compassion with your fellow female people and release them from their living hell.
Mark Watson said,

September 26, 2005 at 2:18 am

l’m a hard working English guy who has a beautiful loving and kind Filipino girlfriend and we are both very happy except from the fact that she is married to a selfish arrogant Filipino guy in the Philippines who used to bully her and beat her and her children and because there is no divorce in the Philippines we are unable to marry.She has been told by her husband that if she marries me here in England and tried to return to the Philippines he would have her arrested and jailed for biggamy eventhough he lives off the money she sends home for her family.My girlfriends story is quite common solely becaused there is no philippine divorce law.
tanya said,

October 16, 2005 at 9:05 pm

what’s wrong with divorce? the church should not meddle with this issue because biases will arise…of course they will oppose to divorce because their “teachings” said so…but come to think of it…there are so many unhappy married couples here in the philippines because of wrong marriage…i’ll give myself as an example…i’ve been living with this man for more than two years now…he’s married but is separated with his wife two years ago…their marriage i can say is a wrong one because he really didn’t want to marry that woman…but the woman’s family insisted to marry their daughter because the woman’s pregnant…they didn’t let him leave their place because they were preparing for the wedding etc (even without his consent)…he tried to escape but he failed…they lived together for 3 years and 3 months…but the marriage really didnt work out for them…until he met me (they were already separated at that time)…he told me that he now found the woman he wanted to spend the rest of his life with (and obviously that’s me)…but he cant marry me because he’s still tied up with his marriage…worst, my parents didnt know that he is already married…and i cant tell them because i would break their hearts…until the time came that we cant let go of each other we decided to “get married” even if we know its illegal…my friends and family know that our marriage is valid…his legal wife only knew that we’re living together (BY THE WAY HIS LEGAL WIFE ALSO HAS A BOYFRIEND NOW, they also want to get married but they also cant)…see the effect of not having a divorce here in the philippines…we cant be that happy because legally their still married…our son is considered illegitimate because our marriage is considered a voidable marriage…to those who are opposing the divorce bill, please, we just want to be happy…listen to Rep. Liza Masa’s proposal on the divorce bill…PLEASE WE ALL WANT TO BE HAPPY…
im said,

October 24, 2005 at 4:36 am

i believe politicians always wanna get the catholic vote that’s y they don’t want this divorce bill. i hope they wud realise that not all catholics are anti-divorce.
mowh said,

October 28, 2005 at 10:16 pm

well actually we’re having a debate right now with regards to this topic… =’)
and we’re the negative side…
and i really believe that divorce is not just the only way or answer to solve problems of couples….
we must always remember that marriage is a sacred thing…
and also, let us consider its effects on children……
KaiLin said,

November 17, 2005 at 2:55 pm

I’m dating this Filipino guy who is married and we have so much fun together. He was trapped for a long time in a marriage that he wasnt happy in. However, we can never get married because there is no divorce in Philippines. I hope that divorce can be legalized so that all those people stuck in unhappy marriages can have a chance to move on..
colin said,

December 18, 2005 at 12:46 am

Apart from Malta (and the Vatican) the Philippines is the only country in the world which prohibits divorce. In South America there are over 300,000,000 Catholics. All have the legal right to divorce. The separation of Church and State is a must in the Philippines. The Catholic Church has curtailed the evolution of the Philippines too long and it is time for the people to chose how to live their lives without interference. Unhappy marriages causes misery to millions to couples who agree that their marriage is a total failure and where both have found happiness with new partners
Jerry said,

December 23, 2005 at 2:40 pm

Seems so one sided, if cannot unmarry, why be allowed to marry in the 1st place? I don’t feel that the church should have the right to make it a law by contesting divorce. All goverments are run by the people & for the people (supposedly). Time to let the people put it to vote and leave the church out of it! I too am affected by this unjust, illiterate, one sided entrapment. I will faithfully love my lady all the day’s of her life if she will let me, but thanks to this one sided Church rule we cannot ever enjoy marriage ourselves. Time to get with the program and live in reality, not in the 1600’s, times have changed, so must the law of the land. Free the people from there miserable marriages so they can improve themselves with other chances & also the overall quality of life and moral of the country!!
Jay Alonzo said,

January 18, 2006 at 12:21 am

The Catholic CHurch is okay with divorce in Italy, France, Germany, BUT NOT for us FILIPINOS. Why? Do they think we’re that stupid?
fhev said,

January 21, 2006 at 2:43 am

ai ambot..but much better if divorce wud be adopted.
fhev said,

January 21, 2006 at 2:45 am

i frefer having divorce,we’re not perfect somtyms we made wrong dcsion that needs to be corrected.
Miriam said,

January 29, 2006 at 11:05 am

What don’t all of you go out to the streets in a big
demonstration and demand the right to have divorce.
The same way as you guys demanded for Marcos to resigned.
Blueblood said,

January 30, 2006 at 12:17 pm

Not only catholics are againts to divorced. be in mind that majority of the Filipinos believed in the Bible, we are” Christian’- we believed what is writtn in the Bible.Marriage was ordained by God and honored by Christ to bind both parties for life.

But before I add some Bible verses; I ask everyone here to whom you believed? God or the govrment? ill ask too if you believed God’s Word?

God gve us instruction on how to solve unhappy marriage; God give us way to do how to reconcile it!

It has been God’s purpose from the very beginning that the marriage vow should bind both parties to each other by indissoluble ties “for life.” Matthew 19:6; Mark 10:11, 12; Luke 16:18. Therefore, divorce is not in harmony with the will of God. Malachi 2:14-16.

To those who suffering for failed marriage:

In case of separation, both are to remain single until the death of the other partner or until they are reconciled to each other. Romans 7:1-3; 1 Corinthians 7:10-15, 39.

“this view challenge to who believed in God; if not, then you follow yourself than God’s instruction”
juvy said,

February 1, 2006 at 2:57 am

is it the devorce legal in the phils.?
Kimberly said,

February 8, 2006 at 12:19 pm

To juvy:

There is no divorce in the Philippines at all but there is annulment.
rj said,

February 18, 2006 at 6:06 am

eogs!! all i can say is that divorce is maybe ok or not, it depends upon the motive of the person why he want a divorce,,, if divorce will make his life happy, then why not? as long as it will benefits the couple and doesnt hurt anyone and much better if the decision is not one sided only,,,
Anonymous said,

February 20, 2006 at 5:22 am

Rj.
[excerpts] all i can say is that divorce is maybe ok or not, it depends upon the motive of the person why he want a divorce,,, if divorce will make his life happy, then why not? -

If I will touch your belief; it looks; u prefer to follow your own decision than God, as long as you are happy with it then u do it, without knowing if this is RIGHT OR WRONG!
Peace*!
romel said,

February 21, 2006 at 9:25 pm

bakit kelangan mag devorse? para sakin ayoko ng devorse 1 is to one lang me. siguro noong niligawan nyo babae sex lang d ba hanap nyo hindi nyo sineryoso magmahal ng toto o mga lalaki at isa pa siguro hindi nyo minahal o napilitan lang kayo mag pakasal siguro hindi kayo pala simba kaya nangyayari at kulang sa pananampalataya kaya kayo mga babae hanap kayo ng matinong lalaki at may isip.
Katie said,

February 22, 2006 at 5:27 pm

I was once a divorcee! and now happily married.
By reading these posted opinions, several people has no clue about “Divorce” other than than it’s over.
1) Phil- don’t have divorce, but it DOESN’t STOP husbands/wives from fooling around, did they?
2) Divorce is not easy to unbind the relationship. It cost money and there are alot of legal issues that parents need to understand. Such as child support, alimony and the court make sure that the economical status of the child is not interrupted due this divorce. The divorce is not about the children, courts are very strict to this. It is about the parents that their relationship CANNOT be repaired. Why stay in a relaionship that you are so misserable with. Let’s face it, people change. Whether you agree it or not. That is just the nature of human being. This does not mean, our relationship change 100%, but to some extent it does. Would you rather have a husband that has several wives? or would you rather have a wife that is the town whore. Your choice!
And as far as children goes, would rather have them see the constant fight of the parents. Or would you rather raise your child peacefully and let them know the value of relationship, and that marriage is not the end of the World. How about those husbands that abuse thier wives physically and mentally, and those husbands that sells their wives for money. Is that ok as long as they are married, then? I am sorry but that practise is NOT acceptable by me. I would rather be a single Mom. I did a very good job in raising my kid from that broken marriage, she is now a lawyer I raised her by myself, and guess what? she has a very high respect on me of divorcing him.
edward bersabal said,

February 22, 2006 at 8:54 pm

yah! many people says that divorce is the solution of unsucessful merriage, but for me divorce is only to get involve for another problem, why dont give every family to think first before they involve in thaT kind of situation!!!!!! KAWAWA NAMAN UNG MGA ANAK…… KAYA I THINK DIVORCE IS NOT REALY THE SOLUTION!
Katie said,

February 23, 2006 at 10:28 am

It is never a solution but rather a “resolution” to unhappy relationship. The intention of getting married is to stay “Forever”. But sometimes there is no such thing as “forever”. There are couple that deserves to get married but they can’t ‘cuz of thier previous marriage with someone that went sour. Now, let me ask you, is that fair? What is kawawa…how do you know that the children would want divorce too from their abusive parent? My parents were not divorce, my Dad was very abusive. I do not like him! I still wonder why my Mom did not divorce him, we probably have a happier lives without him. So, PEOPLE, don’t assume that children don’t go for divorce! You will be surprised when you find out that children prefer to stay with one parent as long as they are happy and not in the abusive atmosphere!

People, THINK outside the box!
miko said,

February 23, 2006 at 11:37 pm

The Lord said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” (Genesis 2:18) For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh. (Genesis 2:24) Therefore, what God has joined together let man not separate. (Mark 10:9)

come to think of it..believe in God’s word
Jun said,

February 24, 2006 at 10:32 am

Get real, miko. Whatever is written in the Bible doesn’t apply to the real world. And Genesis? That chapter of the Bible is based on pure conjecture. Unhappy marriages shouldn’t drag on for another day. That is why I support divorce. If anyone doesn’t like divorce here (raise your hand) then why the heck does the Church allow annulments? It is just a glorified red-taped version of divorce. Some couples even have to bribe some priests to speed up the process!!! Now call me crazy but does God condone this behavior?
Katie said,

February 26, 2006 at 10:47 am

Jun….can you see me raising both hands and feet?
People need to get education in THIS SUBJECT! Ignorance can hurt and it may cost too many unhappy relationships. People opposing now may be the next unhappy person. You just never know what your future will bring! Unless you are Miss Cleo that reads the future!
Wonder if Miko’s married life or families’ married lives are ALL happy…c’mon let’s be HONEST now…
Katie said,

February 27, 2006 at 11:02 am

Jun,,,i mis-understood your statement….i am for divorce like you and few educated people in this board…sorry!
sean said,

March 7, 2006 at 3:36 am

all i have to say… do not blame the catholic church nor the government for not allowing divorced.we are on the process of transitional moral change because we are fascinated by trends of the first world countries. to those who wants divorced in the philippines just wait? you cannot easily say or blame such institution like the church.our culture is the rooted on this and you cannot blame the protectors of morals. the church stand is to protect marriages,however,before goin into marriage, one must think and always think what is really marriage is. some of us don’t know what is really marriage is, that is why when we feel unhappy sometimes in a relationship we easily say divorced is the answer. why get married if you think marriage is at all risk?we do not understand what is marriage is all about and if we allow the idea of divorced, the concept of marriage becomes all about risking and not for unselfish happiness, forgiving and giving ones life for the other. i guess as of this moment the filipno people are not ready for this. TO THOSE PEOPLE THINK THAT HAPPINESS ARE ALWAYS ABSOLUTELY FREE AND FOR PLEASURE SAKE ONLY, BETTER CHANGE AND REFLECT NOW. MOST DIVORCED ARE GROUNDED ON THE BASIS OF FEELINGS.GOT IN LOVE WITH ANOTHER PERSON BECAUSE OF PLEASURE SAKE AND THATS WHY ASK DIVORCED FROM HIS HUSBAND OR WIFE.WE ONLY SEE FREEDOM, HAPPINESS IN THE CONTEXT OF PLEASURE.DO YOU THINK I AM WRONG? HOW FOOL IT IS.I BELIEVED THAT THE LAW OF DIVORCED SOMEDAY, WILL BE MISUSED AND THAT WOULD BREAK OR SHUTDOWN THE TRUE ESSENCE OF WHAT FAMILY IS…. WE WILL GO BACK INTO THE IDEA OF ANIMAL MENTALITY.PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND TO THOSE WHO ARE WITH DIVORCED..SOMEDAY YOU’LL SEE THE TREMEDOUS EFFECT ON THIS.YOU ONLY THINK OF WHAT IS TODAY BECAUSE YOU DO NOT ANALYZE BUT ONLY FEEL WHAT IS NOW…..
tactless_bitch said,

March 8, 2006 at 8:50 pm

certaily, almost all of u guys made impressive opinions about this controversial issue. i salute u for giving ur sincere judgment about this. however, if u wud ask me if i am in favor of divorce in the phils, i shud say YES. i need not tell u why. may god bless the filipinos!
ms.confused said,

March 11, 2006 at 8:34 pm

is divorce really necessary in the philippines? what is the main problem of the church why they won’t agree in legalizing divorce?
Marlo dela torre said,

March 12, 2006 at 12:50 am

>is there any verse in the bible that said
>by God that you live with uyour husband even if
>you were batered by him
Blueblood said,

March 12, 2006 at 10:55 am

to Marlo:
It has been God’s purpose from the very beginning that the marriage vow should bind both parties to each other by indissoluble ties “for life.” Matthew 19:6; Mark 10:11, 12; Luke 16:18. Therefore, divorce is not in harmony with the will of God. Malachi 2:14-16.

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To Katie : Qoute:[ Divorce is not the solution, but a resolution"] - based in your own idea; we respect it; pero hindi nasisiyahan ang Diyos sa Divorce na resolution”.

GOD GVE US THE CORRECT WAY OF SOLUTION:
To those who suffering for failed marriage:
In case of separation, both are to remain single until the death of the other partner or until they are reconciled to each other. Romans 7:1-3; 1 Corinthians 7:10-15, 39.

PEOPLE : Choose ye this day, whom you will serve:
TO GOD or to HUMAN’s idea.

Peace Katie*
Blueblood said,

March 12, 2006 at 11:09 am

to Jun : Qoute”[If anyone doesn’t like divorce here (raise your hand) then why the heck does the Church allow annulments?"]

Annulments based ni God’s instruction as I mentioned earlier, that both should remain single until the death of the other or reconciled. the reason that church allowd it a sit is written in God’s Word.

now Jun, papipiliin kita; saan ka susunod? Kay George Bush? or sa Diyos?
peace* -
mikhail vecino said,

March 12, 2006 at 10:23 pm

para sa akin pro- divorced ako here.. kais kung tunay na talagang hindi na kayo nagmamahalan e di divorced.. kung wala naman problema e di wag mag pa divorced its a matter of choice lang yun … right ? hindi naman siguro lahat magdidivorce kung mapapasa ito sa pilipinas..
quirlyn hinaloc said,

March 13, 2006 at 9:43 pm

……..i firmly believe that divorce is agreeable to us because we all know that this case is one way of solving our problem in having regrets with our partner,in other hand we committing a bad relationship,therefore why we don’t have a divorce with our partner who make ourleves become mesirable……dont ever forget that we have freedom of choicing relationship………
beth said,

March 15, 2006 at 8:11 am

Agree ako for having divorce in the Philippines, infact i am filing for annulment, but it takes time…and it takes a lot of money….i am separated for 3 years now…and i just file my annulment one year already but the process is very slow….nakakabagot, sobrang bagal, i have kids and i raise them, i did not get any single centavo from my husband…and i dont need it naman….nagtatago kasi sa palda ng nanay niya….but after i separated with my husband…i am very blessed and happy….very peaceful ang buhay ko kasama ang aking mga anak….but mas maganda kung totally void na aming kasal….para di na niya makuha ang anak namin….so only divorce is the answer of my problem right now…hopin that they will legalize it already as soon as possible….para sa mga babaeng nahihirapan na sa marriage life nila……
lena said,

March 15, 2006 at 8:20 am

I have 8 kids, and 8 years separated, and i dont have have many to file for an annulment, i work anything for my kids, so i can support them with their studies…lahat na yata ng bisyo nasa husband ko na…and dont even want to work…and etc..favor ako na may divorce dito….bakit ba nakikialam ang mga catholic religion…hindi naman nila alam kung anong paghihirap ang dinanas ko….
althea said,

March 18, 2006 at 11:57 pm

im agree with divorce,coz i believe that its the only way of preventing domestic violence…
CHARY said,

March 20, 2006 at 6:37 pm

getting married is not a game but when your marriage involves infedility and violence losing of respect,esp. the love is gone, for me it is nit worth it. Better to get divorce or else you suffer.[TAKE NOTE IT IS FOR A LIFETIME].
Katie said,

March 20, 2006 at 6:46 pm

Blueblood said:
“now Jun, papipiliin kita; saan ka susunod? Kay George Bush? or sa Diyos?”

Blueblood…You are so hypocrite, as if you didn’t make any mistakes in life…look at yourself in the mirror before talking people like that…my God!

Have you read the posted messages from these women?
If you have a perfect family, good for you!
But don’t forget “ALL families are dysfunctional”, don’t ever forget that!!!!
Toni Lynn said,

March 22, 2006 at 2:23 pm

Yes, Divorce should be legalized in the Philippines, the no divorce situation does not preserve the family unit, instead it promotes bigamy, people are leaving their spouses and remarrying illegally, check the civil records and you will see this is true. Please do everything possible to support house bill 4016 to legalize Divorce in the Philippines. Everyone in the Philippines is not Catholic, those who are not are being penalized by the no divorce policy. FREE THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!
Alvin said,

March 23, 2006 at 7:57 am

Blueblood said:
“now Jun, papipiliin kita; saan ka susunod? Kay Qouted: George Bush? or sa Diyos?”

Blueblood…You are so hypocrite, as if you didn’t make any mistakes in life…look at yourself in the mirror before talking people like that…my God!
———– ”

I supposd to laugh whn i read ths. But i thnk that Katie need to open her mind being stretchable. As I read above mentioned topics and Blueblood’s idea. He seems to askd Jun to whom he will follow, as Blueblood againts n divorce as he believd in God, & divorce againts the will of God. Blueblood’s idea gve some passage w/c based in the Bible. - No hurts* in between* -

Kung ikaw Katie, alam mo nang makasalanan ginawa mo? at alam mo na ang pupuntahan mo. Gusto mo bang gawin yun?

I am referring this line” now Jun, papipiliin kita; saan ka susunod? Kay George Bush? or sa Diyos?
peace* -

PEACE
asynnet said,

March 25, 2006 at 1:24 am

hi to all of you! I’m asynnet,16 y/o, came from the phillippines. I know that I’m too young for this topic but I want to says “thanks” for all of you because I learned from this topic. I really respect what your all opinion. I wish that all of you have a better and mostly an hapilly marriage and life. take care! teinkz for reading my short letter.
seven said,

March 25, 2006 at 1:36 am

thankz for your messages asynnet! I hope you will find a lucky and a loving man someday. teik care too!
Katie said,

March 28, 2006 at 7:17 am

Alvin…you are another hypocrite individual, so sorry to hear that!
PEOPLE,,, educate yourself about the situation. Don’t turn the other way like most of you are! BE REAL…QUIT referring to the Bible for God himself was not married…think about it, BE REAL People…how sad…some of you are so good in bible phrases, i wonder if you really understood it’s meaning!
Katie said,

March 28, 2006 at 7:24 am

Alvin, what do you mean by “to open her mind being stretchable”? being stretchable????
Also “Blueblood’s idea, He seems to askd Jun to whom he will follow, as Blueblood againts n divorce as he believd in God, & divorce againts the will of God. Blueblood’s idea gve some passage w/c based in the Bible. - No hurts* in between* -” Alvin, Dude..this is a given…you have not had any new ideas here. You just repeated what had been said…”He seems to askd Jun to whom he will follow, as Blueblood againts n divorce “…good God!!!!!
islipidyow said,

March 28, 2006 at 12:44 pm

“God made man a free agent, responsible for his own actions, with his conscience as his bar of judgement”

-Voltaire-
jen said,

March 28, 2006 at 8:51 pm

were given our own choice…..martir is not uso already….basta nalang kinasal kau, magpapakamatay ka nalang ba….papatayin ka na….sige ka parin…bubugbugin na ang mga anak mo…dikit ka parin….

God gave us the wisdom to understand what is good and what is bad, and He even gave us the freedom to do the right decision …..

im favor of divorce bill….
Katie said,

March 29, 2006 at 3:07 pm

Well said jen….God gave us the brain to think, so let’s it, shall we? Don’t waste his creation. Let’s leave God out on this issue, instead use the brain he gave us for the good of others and self.
Marie said,

April 2, 2006 at 10:39 pm

yes divorce should be legalize in the Philippines.I got married there 13 years ago in the Phil.i’ve lived
here in the states for almost 13 years.I’m on the process of divorce cuz of sexuall abuse for so many years.But I still have to get annullment in the Phil.in order for me to re marry again.How crazy is that church shouldn’t be involve in politics at all.Let us find our happiness kids that are involve is going to fine.Better get out of the relationships before its too late,its better for the children and for your own sanity. thanks
hughweh said,

April 4, 2006 at 3:15 am

yah…i think its about time that divorce should be ligalized here in the phil.
actually we have a debate in our school,kya id tried to gather info. here.and id learned a lot.thankz.wag nyo snang icping dhil mas mdami ang pro kya dun ako.the real reason is im from a broken family.my parents separated when i was about 5 yrs. old.and i am 18 now.kya un…i know its my fathers fault fr. the start but….to be continued…..
beth said,

April 4, 2006 at 7:58 am

Is it possible that my fiance (American) can file a fiancee visa for me? The truth is I’m still married to one of the laziest man on earth. My bastard husband doesn’t work for 7 years already. Please suggest any lawyer who can help me in filing an annullment. I live in Davao City.
cybernaut said,

April 14, 2006 at 3:44 am

“moralists” keep on using the biblical line “and no man shall take them apart,” to dishonor divorce when it that line simply means that one should not commit adultery

ANNULMENT is so hypocritical. married couples are forced to prove that their marriage was non-existent because of psychological incapacty, because of this, because of that…etc etc

uhhh pleaseeeeee! give us a break! what a bunch of hypocrites! liars! and the Church actually tolerates this kind of hypocrisy! shame!

couples who cant live with each other anymore, will separate from each other no matter what. and its the government’s DUTY to give FORMALITY to that separation in a cheaper, faster, and UNHYPOCRITICAL way, and that is through DIVORCE!
lance said,

April 19, 2006 at 11:03 pm

Please, let’s have a divorce..give peace a chance, real love to take it’s course after a mistake civil marriage; justice after misery,to get out of lasting binding of false hope, tarnish mind, relationship; if annullment case for the court, please act on on a timely manner; for those who wants to get married, please be sure of sincere and real love, hope, faith, trust, of real commitment to each other, for the church and gov’t to really ensure couples are ready, require to undergo series of seminars, maybe test..implement a strict system, family planning..divorce cases must have systematic due process, real grounds..proven reasons, valid claims after a failed relationship!thanks!
elly said,

May 1, 2006 at 5:34 pm

A question, my catholic sister in law was married to my “catholic’ american brother 12 years ago in phillippines. She is now a US citizen. brother immediately converted to Jehovas Witness upon return to US. marriage soured, now psychological abuse, emotional abuse. Has turned their children against her because she won’t convert to witness, they all (except the philippino catholic) shun all rest of our family. She is not philippino citizen, but was married there. Can she divorce here in America? if she must wait for annulment, would she have claim to half of their assets? (although brother has drained all money and diverted it to the church leaving her unable to even buy groceries!) the divorce question is very important to know, please advise! thanks!
bea meg said,

May 16, 2006 at 11:22 pm

Regarding this issue, there are two dangerous things that you must watch out for in the Philippine setting:

1. “Ligaw” — where Filipino males put their best foot forward and all you see are sunshine and daisies…until you marry him. Then his abusive nature rears his ugly head and you realize…

2. There is no divorce.

I’m not saying all Filipino men are abusive, but many many abusive Filipino males do not show their true colors until after they’ve had you.

Anti-divorce favors men. Our laws favor men. There are no male adulterers, you can only charge them with concubinage…and their punishment isn’t as heavy as the ones bestowed upon adulteresses.

If you put divorce into place, all wives of cheating husbands will require alimony. Hehe.

As for my response? I’m pro divorce. I am actually undergoing an annulment case because I’m not vying for Sainthood or martyrdom. Thing is, I had to save up hundreds and thousands of pesos to make this case happen and am not even sure if it will be granted. What about those people who cannot afford to save up that much? Are they going to vie for Sainthood and martyrdom also?

I’m sorry but I believe in a merciful God. One that does not condone abuse against women. Quote all you want from the Bible, just don’t forget to put yourselves in the shoes of the hundreds of women who have died at the hands of their abusive husbands.
JDespaldon said,

May 26, 2006 at 1:04 am

In our parochial world of hypocrisy, we call divorce as nullity of marriage. It has the same effect though, that is, dissolving marriage, however, this recognized way in our country of putting an end to a marital bond is more emotionally exhausting and draining to everyone involved compared with divorce.

I could not understand why perfectly decent people just only to get out of a sad situation of being married to “wrong partners” have to concoct acerbic allegations against each other just only to meet the criterion of psychological incapacity. Why not just part ways in the most civil way possible without setting the bridge of relationship aflame? Why not just a no-contest divorce as is being practiced in other countries by couple who are separated in-fact for more than a year?

We are afraid of the church indignation against divorce but are we not afraid of being condemned by God for lying or hypocrisy? Isn’t it said by God that whenever we are to answer either yes or no, we better say it so directly for anything said in between is evil?

This is a paradox in our legal system. We shun divorce for being contrary to the teachings of God. Yet, we have nullity of marriage. Worse, only the well-to-do couple can secure nullity of marriage grounded on psychological incapacity considering that one has to hire expensive psychiatrist or psychologist just only to know the “root cause” of that incapacity plus of course the exorbitant legal fees. Poor couples have to wallow in sins of illegitimate relationships.

I am saddened by the fact that more and more couples have to resort to psychological incapacity as a way of nullifying their marriage. They are willing to have themselves branded as “psychologically incapacitated” just only to secure a nullity of marriage.

Incidentally, what is the fine line that separates between “insanity” and “psychological incapacity”?

After securing nullity, they get married again. Indeed, how peculiar is this situation that a psychologically incapacitated person just happened to recover his senses to engage again in another relationship supposed to last a lifetime. A person involving himself or herself in a nullity case and marrying again may be considered to be a person who has that sudden swings of mental instability and lucid interval. What a funny situation if we are going to observe such events in life from afar. But no so funny to the children who are exposed to these pretended bickering between their parents. They are the most affected and may in reality be the ones to be rightly assessed as psychologically incapacitated at the end of the proceedings.

On second thought, what paradox anyway? In our country, we refer to male organ as “penis” but it is totally obscene to use our own native language in referring to the same organ. In the same way that we do not have divorce but we have nullity of marriage. Perhaps, the author of the law is just being politically correct.
cookie crumbles said,

June 2, 2006 at 8:54 pm

it’s sad i have to go to canada to file a divorce. it’s expensive but it’s better than being in the so called “marriage” but in reality your’e not anymore. i don’t believe in divorce before but when i experienced the pain, my outlook changed. i hope our politicians in the philippines would at least take a look at it.
Shattering life said,

June 6, 2006 at 5:05 am

the bishop doesn’t know how helly it could be once you married the wrong person because they themselve could never experience it.. what a shame…. if they are for our happiness they should consider it.. In the Bible there is a divorce too.. at least they should be open minded about it. In the first place who would want to get married and divorce? nobody but sometimes things gets out of control and both parties could no fathom to be together anymore. I hope and pray that they will be able to resolve this and make some filipino happy.
galdys said,

June 28, 2006 at 6:10 am

i dont think this is an issue of being a catholic or not. i am a catholic but i am pro divorce. yes, church role in the community is to keep families intact. but if it cannot be helped why stay in a marriage when both of you cant see eye to eye. both couples are just making things more difficult for the children. this is just based on experience, my husband and i was always fighting and sometime our children will see us which is so uhealthy and unfair for them. if i, as a mother,is not happy with living with my husband, so how would i be able to provide happiness to my children, when i am also struggling inside, right? what i can say for the church, why dont they just stick to preaching the good news and let the government handle the problem of the state.
peace to all kinds of beliefs!
yan19 said,

July 11, 2006 at 7:17 am

ok!let’s drop that bible thing because not everyone can relate to it.it’s not that I don’t know anything about the bible but we’ll just take a look at reality here.mayba we should not only think of one advantage that divorce can offer and that is being free from the responsibility of being a wife or a husband or being a parent to your children.from the first place,why did you marry such a man and if that man hid his real identity from you,why won’t you know it if you had given yourself time to think for a million times if he’s really the one?were you so energetic to marry him because his the one who ignited your lonely heart or he’s the answer to your prayers or you thought that he’s the one because he has everything physically?just like the phrase “don’t make another you”.as to the people who does not know about the statistics,a great number of people who settles on divorce or separation are victims of it themselves.if you settle for divorce your children will become like you.it’s just a cycle. sooner or later if divorce will be legalize even if it will be based on philippine culture or it will be a long process to be studied well still,it is a divorce.no matter the duration,the people involved or the reason of it still,it is divorce and it will wreck the very foundation of the society and the group which is the first school of the youth. the funny thing is,most of us filipinos are so trying hard.we always crave for a change,comparing our country to other countries and always saying that we are so obsolete.the question is,”can we handle the things that we ask for?”we don’t even have discipline!you should thank the people who are working so hard in thinking this issue a million times before acting because you will know that someone is really thinking here.we have a gift of wisdom,please don’t waste it for such a crap!i’m there!you’re a victim of a brutal marriage.did it cross to your mind maybe your husband is a sadist and he thinks that your a masuchist because you didn’t do anything to make him stop?there’s a lot of organizations,precincts and units you can go to for help.are you that deprived from such information? wake up people!!!what’s got in to you?!think!we have to uplift our economic status first before jumping to such issues.let’s priorotize!!!!
Rowena said,

July 13, 2006 at 5:58 am

Give those people a chance to be happy…make divorce legal in the Philippines…life is short, everyone has a right to be happy…we don’t need to be stuckep up in a mistake that we did… we need to move on and start a new life..
Weng said,

July 13, 2006 at 6:03 am

As far as i’ve read the lines of people here, they have point to make the divorce legal in the Philippines.
Weng said,

July 13, 2006 at 6:54 am

I am favor of divorce bill!!!
jhenn said,

July 15, 2006 at 2:56 am

yes!!! divorce should be legalize here in phils…was married when i was 18 and i thought my husband is the guy that i want for the rest of my life at first were ok but then it turn out like a nightmare,his always drunk everyday and now dont have job….i wanted to move out from this marriage but how can i?Church should think about it….that all people needs to be happy and why keep the marriage if not happy anymore….i hope catholic churh would realize this…..more power to pro-divorce…hope it will be grant soon
ronel said,

July 26, 2006 at 8:10 pm

im from de la salle lipa and im 18 years old..
we have a debate about divorce next week..at first,im not pro divorce because i think its immoral..but as i read different articles in the web i guess we should not stop the implementing of divorce here in the philippines..one of my reason is because not all filipinos are catholics..so there will be no question of morality there in religious basis..and it will be helpful for those marriages that are not successful..thats all.. i still have a class..gud pm to all the readers…
Vincent Palma said,

July 27, 2006 at 1:55 am

Hi! My name is Vincent and I am 14 yrs. old. Yes!! 14 yrs. old. I study at St. Joseph’s college as a 3rd year high school student… Right now I am currently having a research about “Is it time to legalize divorce in the Philippines?”. I am an anti-divorce but I know that this little voice of mine can almost never effect anyone… I know that even if I am against divorce it doesn’t matter, if the majority likes it…. But if we were to legalize divorce, I want that kind of divorce to be seen on all point of views and only allowed in certain circumstances… For example, a woman and her children being beaten up by her husband… or a woman being forced by her husband to sell herself for the “safety” of the lives of her children….Now allowing those couples to be divorced is just… Not those circumstances that don’t need divorce, those who can be solved by just plain talking… Like she discovered that he is having an affair or She/he just PLAIN don’t love him/her anymore… Those reasons ,on my point of view, is STUPID.. Let’s think of the fruits of the relationship, the innocent ones who simply wants a happy family, the children… What would they feel?? And for those people who wants to be out of their marriage, was your marriage just an impulse?? Like out of nowhere you decided to get married??? You should have first thought if this guy will love me for all eternity and CAN I love him too for all eternity… You shoudn’t have married him/her if there was just a single doubt in you. IT IS YOUR FAULT IF YOUR RELATIONSHIP END UP TO BE LIKE THIS!! AND DO NOT INVOLVE YOUR CHILDREN WITH YOUR OWN PROBLEMS… They are not the ones who made those problems that YOU and your SPOUSE is facing now… They are innocent and please let them stay that way… Think on how your divorce will affect your children… I have many friends who have BROKEN families… And those friends of mine became prostitutes, rapists, murderers, gang members, drug abusers to name a FEW… Do you want that to happen to your children whom I suppose and believe that you love? Please guys…
_fhaye_ said,

July 31, 2006 at 12:40 am

I’m an anti divorce but when i read those comments….i realized that they are really facing the life that is not suitable for them…..GOD GAVE US THE FREEDOM TO DO THE RIGHT DECISION….GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!!
_red butterfly_ said,

July 31, 2006 at 12:45 am

question: what will i do if i want to file a divorce against my husband but he won’t agree?
_stephanie fhaye_ said,

July 31, 2006 at 12:57 am

for me GOD GAVE US THE THE WISDOM AND FREEDOM TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND TO DO THE RIGHT DECISION!!!… nasa mag-asawa na yun kung paano nila reresolbahin ang problema nila…actually will having our debate this coming wednesday and im on a positive side…but i’m an anti divorce,but on the other side of my mind…paano nga kung talagang hindi na maganda ang pagsasama ng mga mag-asawa…and they really need to file a divorce….how is that…hahayaan nya na lang bang saktan na lnag sya ng saktan even though hindi na nya kaya?..huwag ng magpakamartir!!!THINK IT MANY TIMES….GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!
Vincent Palma said,

July 31, 2006 at 2:18 am

My reasons to disagree with legalizing divorce in the Phillipines: 1. the children of the couple:they will be the ones greatly affected by their parents’ divorce 2. impulse decisions: we will teach the couple not to think before they marry. they will think that “if this marriage do not work, it’s ok. I can have divorce and remarry again…” we will teach them to become STUPID. 3.cowardry: we will teach this people to become cowards. Divorce will be nothing but a way for couples to “run away from their problems while dragging their children along with them.”
jdespaldon said,

July 31, 2006 at 11:14 pm

I have seen couples who went through annulment and I do not hear their stories from other people. I have first-hand knowledge on how this process unravels.

Children would really be affected by separation of their parents in the same manner that they are affected by the non-separation of parents who stay in one house but no longer respect each other. There is no statistics to prove that just because there is a divorce in one country that couples there unthinkingly enter into marriage and avail easily of divorce later on. Rather, they seldom enter into marriage or they think very hard before they tie the knot.

Stupidity just because couple files divorce? Come on, it is just like saying that it is stupid to put up with a bully just because you can no longer take his abuse.

Cowardice is when couples would not accept that their marriage no longer works and pretend that they can keep their relationships despite persistent and continuous disagreements almost everyday in their lives.

The problem is a marriage that is not working and the sooner that problem is confronted the better it is for the couples whether they seek counselling or resort to annulment. Ignoring that there is a problem is “running away” from the problems.

“Prostitutes, rapists, murderers, gang members, drug abusers” are the alleged products of divorced couples. Why, we have them here and more than compared with that in Australia, New Zealand and United Kingdom who all have divorce. I think we would even rival the US in producing such kind of individuals. And we are talking here of countries who have divorce and predominantly Protestant countries or Anglicans.
jdespaldon said,

July 31, 2006 at 11:17 pm

Red butterfly,

there is no divorce in the Philippines that is why there is this blogs for you to share your views for or against divorce.

Nonetheless, if you mean annulment, why not consult a lawyer. I am sure you would find one near your vicinity.
Vincent Palma said,

August 1, 2006 at 3:15 am

ngayon pa nga lang na wala pang divorce marami na tayong mag-aasawa na gusto na makipaghiwalay sa mga asawa nila dahil daw hindi na niya mahal, lagi di nagkakasundo… Hindi naman yan mangyayari kong nag-isip tayo ng mabuti at paulit-ulit bago tayo nagpakasal… Ang “Tao lang tayo, nagkakamali rin…” ay mali… Oo, nagkakamali tayo pero nangyayari lang yun pag di tayo nag-iisip… Ginagamit lang nating pang defense mechanism ang pagiging tao para magkarason sa mga pagkakamali… NAGKAKAMALI LANG TAYO PAG NAGPAPAKATANGA TAYO… tapos sa mga pagkakamaling yun idadamay mo ang mga anak mo… sana lang maalala na hindi tayo ginawa ng DIYOS na mga bagay na walang pagiisip…
Vincent Palma said,

August 1, 2006 at 3:24 am

ngayon pa nga lang na wala pang divorce may mga rapists, prostitutes, murderers ,gang members na tayo…. pano pa kaya pag may divorce na?? Pag nilegalize natin ang divorce, sa tingin niyo, mababawasan ba ang mga ganito o lalo lang madadagdagan?? OO.. cge kahit anong gawin natin dadami at dadami ang mga ganito pero ang pinaka problema ang bilis ng pag dami… kapag nilegalize ba natin ang divorce babagal ba ang pagdami o lalo lang bibilis??
Vincent Palma said,

August 1, 2006 at 3:29 am

Cowardice is when couples would not accept that their marriage no longer works and pretend that they can keep their relationships despite persistent and continuous disagreements almost everyday in their lives.
Vincent Palma said,

August 1, 2006 at 3:32 am

no it’s not!! that is positive thinking, thinking that problems can be solved through communication and true love for their children… SeLf SaCrIfIcE is the word…
Vincent Palma said,

August 1, 2006 at 3:39 am

“The problem is a marriage that is not working and the sooner that problem is confronted the better it is for the couples whether they seek counselling or resort to annulment. Ignoring that there is a problem is “running away” from the problems.” =You say counselling there i agree… Counselling is the real way to face the PROBLEM… but when you said annulment and divorce, there i disagree…. those are running away from your problems…
yan said,

August 1, 2006 at 10:01 am

you know what vincent?young as you are you are really thinking maturely.i like the way you see everything in different angles.i just hope people will see things the way you see it.people nowadays are becoming stupids.
jdespaldon said,

August 1, 2006 at 9:21 pm

I am amazed that my perorations about divorce can gather such kind of reactions. As Frederick Douglass said in his twilight years on what he would do before he departs, he said: “Agitate, sir, agitate!”

Well, then, I am not yet in my twilight years, but, hey, it is good to “agitate” and make life exciting.

I know I have valid points on the issue and, modesty aside, no one has successfully contradicted any of them; therefore, I rest my case.

God bless you all lovers of free speech.
reginaLd said,

August 7, 2006 at 7:40 pm

pa heLp po..
may debate pu kasi kame..
wer pro-divorce..
can i get some tips and advice about legalizing divorce in the philippines..
im new here..
thanks..
Terry Quinn said,

August 9, 2006 at 9:32 pm

Very interesting replies. But what I want to know is if a Phillipine lady is marrried to a foriegner and wishes to divorce him can she go to anonther country and file for divorce?
JDEspaldon said,

August 9, 2006 at 11:45 pm

Terry Quinn,

Yes, but not really that simple. Read the Decision in “Republic of the Philippines vs. Cipriano Orbecido III”, G.R. No. 154380, promulgated on 05 October 2005 on how to do it and how to prove divorce in court. Access the Supreme Court of the Philippines Website for the full text of the Decision.

Good luck.
JDEspaldon said,

August 10, 2006 at 12:00 am

reginaLd,

There is really no authority on the field of divorce as it is purely an “academic” issue in the Philippines. Of course, you can talk to law professors or lawyers specializing on annulment or nullity of marriage, Rep. Liza Masa and more others who are vocal for or against divorce. Better yet, go to the library and dig in the newspapers, magazines, books, etc.
josa said,

August 10, 2006 at 1:13 am

“why do you settle for less, if u have more?” and i do beleive ladies and gentlemen in the proposition of falling out of love…w/c do yah all guys prefer, to live and leave or live and be lived? and the only permanent thing in this world is CHANGE…
josa said,

August 10, 2006 at 1:36 am

mommy!!! i heard your loud/angry voice arguing w/daddy last night and the other night and what is that violet thing on ur left eye(black eye), is there something wrong??
the mother replied: nothing baby, your daddy and i were just talking and this violet thing is a make-up.
1st sin… dishonesty,
2nd…letting to live in hell.. y u have to punish urcelf?!

What ever law is acceptable in the land is acceptable to God…
like prostitution as a profession(Rome)
same sex marriage(MA USA)
death penalty(italy, mexico)…. considering that these countries are Christian Country… I THANK YOU… Long live all married couple.. and for those separated… may you find Hapiness and Contentment in Life….
God Bless us all…!!!
sarah said,

August 11, 2006 at 2:15 am

i thot philippines s a democratic country???
i am a christian but dat doesnt mean im pro or against divorce, id like to point out that the majority should decide on that matter, irregardless of wat the “catholic church” myt say…
can any1 remind the “catholic church” of the 1987 Constitution of the Philippines Article II Sec 6..
Vincent Palma said,

August 15, 2006 at 1:53 am

if we were to legalize divorce, I want that kind of divorce to be seen on all point of views and only allowed in certain circumstances… For example, a woman and her children being beaten up by her husband… or a woman being forced by her husband to sell herself for the “safety” of the lives of her children….Now allowing those couples to be divorced is just… Not those circumstances that don’t need divorce, those who can be solved by just plain talking… Like she discovered that he is having an affair or She/he just PLAIN don’t love him/her anymore… Those reasons ,on my point of view, are STUPID..
Vincent Palma said,

August 15, 2006 at 2:37 am

bakita ba lagi natin sinisisi ang simbahan…? oo, kumukontra nga sila sa mga bagay na sa tingin nila ay mali sa mga mata ng Diyos… pero masama ba yun? di ba yun ay isang opinyon lang na nakabase sa kanilang paniniwala at relihiyon… “a way of expressing their freedom of speech…”

hayaan na natin ang simbahan sa kanilang mga opinyon… di naman nila tayo pinipilit na paniwalaan sila.. at kung talagang gusto ng mas nakararami, wala naman talga magagawa ang simbahan…
lynlyn said,

August 17, 2006 at 12:08 am

i dont like divorce,,…
hilda.lyn said,

August 17, 2006 at 12:16 am

marriage is not just a game that when u get tired over it, u can just leave it and find a new one! it is indeed against as what JESUS CHRIST taught to us….
jdespaldon said,

August 18, 2006 at 2:13 am

Is it a “disgraceful and immoral conduct” under the Revised Administrative Code punishable by dismissal from service if a court employee enters into a “common law” relationship or marriage without a contract, in layman’s term, “when her husband [now deceased] was still alive but living with another woman”?

The court employee’s excuse is that her “common law” relationship “is in conformity with their religious beliefs and has the approval of her congregation” of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

The Supreme Court ruled it is not. Justice Reynato Puno made an exhaustive and scholarly discussion in the case of Alejandro Estrada vs. Soledad Escritor, in Administrative Matter or A.M. No. P-02-1651 promulgated on 22 June 2006.

Does this mean that if “common marriage” marriage is in conformity with the teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses but without the sanction of law like nullity or annulment of the first marriage, is it also legal and the persons involved are exempt from criminal prosecution for concubinage or adultery? I do not know.

Abangan na lang ang mga susunod na pronouncements ng Supreme Court sa ibang kaso.
_nadezh said,

August 20, 2006 at 10:44 pm

helo sa mga nag suggest.., alam niyo ng nabasa ko ang mga wsuggewstion niyo ay talagang namangha ako…. sa totoo lang may research debate kami sa school namin about sa pag i-implement ng divorce sa pilipinas at anti-divorce ako….nang nabasa ko yong mga sugestion niyo ay nalilito nlang ako bigla dahil hindi ko na alam kung saan ako dapat kakampi,, pero para sa akin hindi parin dapat ipa implement ang divorce dito sa pilipinas..hindi ko na kailangan pang sabihin kung bakit dahil alam kong alam niyo na kung ano ang ibig kung sabihin…isipin niyo nalang kung ano ang puwedeng mangyari kung ipapa implement ang divorse sa pilipinas……
GwEnNy said,

August 21, 2006 at 4:06 am

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Bill McIntyre said,

August 22, 2006 at 7:35 pm

Whats so great about living in the modern world. Divorce in America is rampant and causes only problems. Selfish people ruin childrens lives because life did not turn out exactly like they had planned or things look better across the fence. What people should do is make sure of their decision to marry, but once you decide it should be for life and you should remember when you are making the decision that it is for life. People should quit looking for the easy way out and take responsibility for their own decisions and their own lives. When you marry your own life includes all in the marriage. God tells us to be blessed we must first be happy with what we have. How can you ask God for anything else when you are not happy with what he has already given you. I am not a Catholic, I am not a religeous fanatic, I study and teach history, and history tells us that divorce destroys families, countries, and empire’s. Divorce is nothing but a destructive catalyst, along with homosexuality, and the decline of morals. If you don’t beleive in God you should at least beleive in facts. Study the facts before you offer opinions that may change peoples lives in a tragic way. Get over your selfish, self centered, and self serving band wagon. Divorce is nothing if not destructive and the facts support this.
Ella said,

August 24, 2006 at 2:36 am

We also had a debate in school if divorce should be legalized here in the philippines. while reading your comments i think that there should be adivorce here in our country. thanks for all your comments it really help me a lot..
hapila2 said,

August 24, 2006 at 8:14 pm

why marry, if in the end be divorced, in the first place there is no law that prohibits marriage. marriage is a sacred one.
Carlos said,

August 25, 2006 at 3:36 am

I am also a Christian and I believe in marriage. Ideally, there should be not divorces, but are we men and women perfect? In NO way. If we don’t recognize divorce, we should all agree the men and women can always make the right decisions, that we are all perfect.

But we all know that is not true.

The Bible does recognize divorces. Jesus said it was Ok in cases of infidelity. However, that was the only reason why couples should get divorced. Now this is according to the Bible. However, how many of us can do everything God tells us to do? Not many of use.

I strongly believe that we should impose our morals to ourselves, not to others. If you are against divorse, you should promote that idea with your good example. But you should not impose your will over others who probably were not wise enough to choose their husbands and wives.

Everybody deserves another opportunity.
jb said,

August 25, 2006 at 9:17 am

it’s really funny. i was actually looking if there will be a soft copy of Justice Sempio-Dy’s guide to family code and here i am reading the comments regarding the divorce bill authored by Rep. Liza Mata. Nag-away kasi kami ng boyfriend ko relating to ‘delaration of nullity’, ‘decree of annulment’, ‘absolute and relative divorce or legal separation’. Pati ang Family Court ng Br 29 Manila RTC Honorable judge ay nagulo na namin! anyway…

Actually we do have already divorce here in the philippines. Relative nga lang, and that is legal separation. it is considered as relative because THE PARTIES ARE LEGALLY SEPARATED BUT THIER MARRIAGE STILL EXISTS. meaning, they are still married, only separated in bed (J. Sempio Dy’s Guide to Family Code Title II) The Church does not prohibit annulment because in annulment, it is as if the marriage NEVER TECHNICALLY EXISTS, and if no marriage exists, they are not contradicting the Church’s pro-Family objectives. They are against ABSOLUTE DIVORCE because what is dissolved here is the EXISTENCE OF THE MARRIAGE, and NOT JUST THE MARITAL RELATIONSHIP. It merely contradicts the meaning of Marriage (art 1 FC) being established as a conjugal and Family life.

Remember yung case ni Atty. Stamaria ke Amy Perez? the SC were suggesting instead of ‘LEGAL SEPARATION’ which is a RELATIVE DIVORCE. amy Perez was contending the Brix is suffering from Psychological Incapacity, which is a ground for the marriage to be void under art 36 FC. If it is proven, then Amy Perez can file for declaration of nullity, in which the result is that she could REMARRY. The probable main reason of a person filing his or her marriage to be void is because he or she still wants to REMARRY. however, in legal separation, you cannot. It is on the case to case basis that a marriage can be declared void and the spouse can file for declaration of nullity of marriage in order to remarry.

If people here really points out the ABUSE OF THE SPOUSE AND MERELY WANTS TO ESCAPE THE ABUSE, then why not file for legal separation? the only intention that i can think of on why filipinos want a divorce to become effective is to GET OUT OF THE MARRIAGE AND TO REMARRY AGAIN, which is CONTRARY TO BOTH LEGAL AND MORAL LAW. What people contends is that they want to escape from abuse of the spouses and the remedy is already available in the philippines- legal separation. but if people have other intentions other than the escape from the abuse, ie. to remarry, then it will really be prohibited by the State and the Church for it will be violating the Church’s teaching as well as the establishment of marriage as a conjugal and family life.
Morse said,

August 25, 2006 at 3:02 pm

Apparently, there are only 2 countries left that prohibits divorce, guess what are these 2 countries?

1. Philippines
2. Chile

Guess what do we have in common?

Answer: The Catholic Church
c.a. said,

August 27, 2006 at 8:37 am

When i read i understand better but when i listen i argue.. so if i want to learn i should read. if i want to prove a point i listen. dont get mad if i try to argue for what i believe in. and when proven wrong, then so be it.

sorry dear. i “read” your point

2cents worth: since state and church is inviolably separated, why is it that the Family Code still need to adhere to church teachings?
ja 16 said,

August 28, 2006 at 8:49 am

Hey there! “jeez” our professor just gave us a project, you know, persuasive essay. Like an introduction for thesis paper for 1st year college students. It just happened that mine is about implementing divorce here in the Philippines. No hard feelings..hear me say! 
I know how some of you guys wanted to get out of what ya’ll call “hell”.. but “marriage is not about writing one’s vow, it’s about writing one’s lives”… your making marriage getting into so much laws…how poor.. Some of you have kids. Why not think of their situation instead of your own satisfaction? It’s not you who will suffer, it’s your children. And besides it’s a “climate of choice”. People nowadays are just too impartial to FIX such problem that they’ve started. Why not try not to avoid conflicts when you can air it out to avoid building up resentments? And if you guys realized some of your differences, these should not be a hindrance to your relationship. Falling out of love? “Love isn’t something people just fall in and out of; it’s a thing people have to keep it ALIVE.”. Getting married after a divorce? You think it would work? “People just repeat the bad habits they got into in their first marriages in their second ones, even if their partners are different types of people; and issues with step-up children make things more difficult.”. And why nag a person to change instead of changing yourselves? Small changes can make big differences…”yah know?”. And if you have problems…why not look for a solution rather than focusing on the problem?

See…there are solutions for each equation. You just need to follow such formula. Oh jeeez!!! I’ll be submitting my project later & got finals pa in bibstud! Hahaha! Thanks..just dropped by..peace out!!
ahzhing18 said,

August 30, 2006 at 6:38 pm

hi eVeryOne!
i just want to thank you guys, because your comments really helps me a lot!
now, i can say that im ready for our debate in our school……..
thanks again guys!
anj said,

August 31, 2006 at 12:43 am

i have a husband, and im having an affair with someone.,,ano mangyayari pag nabuntis ako sa nde ko asawa,? punishable ba yun ng phil law? may makukulong ba? grounds ba yun ng annulment?anong pwedeng mangyari after ko magkaanak? kaninong apelyedo ang i cacarry nung anak ko?solution ba yung anak para makatuluyan ko yung nde ko asawa.
JDEspaldon said,

August 31, 2006 at 10:23 pm

For anj,
i have a husband, and im having an affair with someone.,,ano mangyayari pag nabuntis ako sa nde ko asawa,? THAT IS A CLEAR CASE OF ADULTERY punishable ba yun ng phil law? YES, MAY KULONG YAN; SIX YEARS AT LEAST. may makukulong ba? YES, MAM, AND THAT IS YOU AND YOUR PARAMOUR, IF HE KNOWS YOU ARE A MARRIED WOMAN WHEN YOU HAD INTIMACY. grounds ba yun ng annulment? I DON’T THINK SO BUT ONLY LEGAL SEPARATION BUT PSYCHOLOGIST OR PSYCHIATRIST CAN MAKE A COCK-AND-BULL ANALYSIS OF YOUR PREDICAMENT TO MAKE IT A PSYCHOLOGICAL INCAPACITY anong pwedeng mangyari after ko magkaanak? DON’T WAIT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. MAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION NOW: CONSULT A LAWYER (A GOOD ONE, OF COURSE). kaninong apelyedo ang i cacarry nung anak ko? YOURS, SHE/HE IS AN ILLEGITIMATE CHILD solution ba yung anak para makatuluyan ko yung nde ko asawa. IN ANY MARITAL RELATIONSHIP, I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE LOVE THAT SHOULD BE THE PRIMARY REASON FOR MARRIAGE AND NEVER BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CHILD. LOVE BEGETS CHILD AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

Lastly, pray and talk to a priest or a religious counsellor. It lessens the burden if you share it with others.
niq_czxehv said,

September 4, 2006 at 1:14 am

hey!!!!! thanks for all your comments about legalizing divorce!!!! It really help me a lot….. Luv Yah All……..!!!!!!!!!!!1 mmmmmwwwaaaaahhh…….!!!!!!!!! heheheh……!!!!!!!!!!
ja 16 said,

September 4, 2006 at 11:13 pm

ano pa ba mga debatable n topic? so anyways, divorce or not divorce?!
jhay_san21 said,

September 7, 2006 at 8:43 pm

tnx poh sa lhat nglagay ng comments dahil nakakuha ako ng maraming idea para sa aming debate sa monday salmat sa lhat until nxt tym poh
tnx luv u oll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ingat sa pagpili ng asawa
Cefhyr said,

September 12, 2006 at 9:52 pm

sa akin lang noh, divorce be legalized here in our country coz sabi ng an ng iba , its your choice eh, ika nga if ang marraige mo ay di happy, bakit mo pa ipagpapatuloy ang isang bagay na ayaw mong maranasan….

contrata lang ang nakapaloob sa marriage.. pwede yang magbago…its a matter of Choce….
Cefhyr Baya II said,

September 12, 2006 at 9:54 pm

Divorce is a way to protect one’s interest(s)?! Ano ba happiness mo?! Mang-asawa at magpa-asawa ng ilang beses?! Sa buhay, hindi lang talaga puro happiness ang isasaalang-alang mo, kung hindi pati na rin tungkulin at responsibilidad. Ganito lang ‘yun eh. huwag kang mangako nang hindi mo kayang gawin, kung hindi, wala kang kuwentang tao

Papaano kung binubugbug at ginugutom ka at ang iyong mga anak ng asawa mo? That is what am trying to say RE: Divorce is a way to protect one’s interest/s - especially happiness. How can u be happy when ur supposed partner is belting you left, right and center? Will u be happy to see ur children crying and destitute cuz they are hungry? I am 41 years old, have 3 healthy gorgeous kids, and i have seen all forms of domestic violence in marriage. I wished my mother has divorced her husband - me and my siblings could have had a happy, healthy, peaceful and stable childhood.

Divorce is not a way to destroy relationships (as in marriage). It is more of an option to make choices (free from domestic violence, fulfillment, independence, happiness, etc.

I am divorced too. But it made me and my ex-hubby established a better relationship (more than ever!). we still have dual-responsibility over the children’s affairs(education, upbringing, health,etc.)

This post is a matter of OPINION and not meant to instigate a debate.
Patrick said,

September 15, 2006 at 10:05 pm

I am a german man and legally married to a filipino woman since June 06. I was married before to a non-babtised woman and legally divorced in 2005 after almost two years of separation. We want to marry in church in the Phils now and I want to convert to be catholic. You must know that I was baptised protestant, but when being married for the first time I was no member of any church anymore. Now, when wanting to be married in the church, we need a dispens from the pope, even if I was never married in church. From my first marriage I have two children who live with me and bear my familyname.
I just hope to get the dispens from rome so we can marry and receive the sacraments for our marriage. That dispens may take up to one year. So right now I can do no planning yet. Crazy world! Before knowing this I thought the catholic church is happy to have more sheep following them.
Am I informed right?
frayzle said,

September 19, 2006 at 7:34 pm

tnx 2 ol hu give der opinion, i’ve learned a lot. having a divorce here i d phil. is quite good. we should only think the disavantages and advantages of it. and i think mas marami ang advantages of having a divorce comparing to disavantages.the issue about divorce is not merly being a good christian. it doesnt mean that if u file a divorce to your partner ur not already a good christian or God will already punish you.
irize said,

September 22, 2006 at 1:49 am

pls help me!!!!!!
ano bang section ung divorce? bawal po ba talaga ang divorcekasi pow pro divorce kme and kailangan ko ng matibay na documents about this…..and why divorce are important?.
JDEspaldon said,

September 24, 2006 at 12:17 am

Dear irize,

Your comment is already no. 118. If you would only browse from the topic discussion up to comment no. 117, you would find wealth of information here. The answer to your questions may even be answered.

browse up, mam.
rona said,

September 30, 2006 at 12:03 am

people help me naman. anong reason sa against two child policy because kailangan namin sa debate!
jophe said,

October 2, 2006 at 12:42 am

iM jopheline ancheta,18yrs. of age and im currently havin’ my research about, “divorce in the philippines:a must or not?”
im pro-divorce…if a relationship is not rily working, watever u do,Y NOT DIVORCE,ryt???…for example,a husband or awife ho is havin’ an affair w/ MANY other persons and dat affair he/she is havin’ brought him/her another problem,w/c is another child!?..dat child wil be d 1 to suffer alot bcOZ he/she wil be illegitim8 for the rZon dat his/her parents r not rily married and he/she is only d fruit of their sinS(pertaining to parents)…isnt 8 dat d no. 1 ruLe of our GOD is nOt to commit SINS???…so,8Z better fOr broken marrieges to be divOrced rather dan coMmit mOre nd mOr SINS….!
efren said,

October 2, 2006 at 1:21 am

all i can say is that… no thanks…
efren said,

October 5, 2006 at 1:16 am

alam nating lahat na may mga bagay sa mundo na
di na mababago…

kaya tanggapin mo nlng na ikaw ay isang unggoy…
wag kang maniniwala sa iba na ikaw ay isang unggoy..

magmalaki ka na ikaw ay isang unggoy..
kc kung anu ang puno xa rin ang bunga
Mang Kiko said,

October 8, 2006 at 6:39 pm

Sinong unggoy? ano di mababago sa matsing? tanggapin ko na ako ay unggoy a.k.a. matsing? hindi ako maniwala na ako ay unggoy? ngunit ako ay magmalaki bilang monkey? kasi ang puno ko ay bunga ng matsing? wow, hilo ako sa comment na yun, ha. mabuti pa-magdiborsyo na lang ako para ako ay maging tao. what a monkey life!
elaine said,

October 14, 2006 at 5:40 pm

why do we have to be married if we will end up in divorce? just think…. magpapakasal ka para sa wala?! what a silly decision..? kakainis naman kasi ang mga tao ngayon…. di ko maintindihan kung bakit kailangan ng divorce..? siguro dahil 14y.o. palang po ako… but thats not the point…. even im only 14y.o. i can unerstand the meaning of divorce… and the effect that will cost to their children… bago sana kayo magdivorce o magpakasal isipin nyo muna yung mga magiging kapalit o dulot ng disisyon nyo…..! kahit wg nalang para sa sarili nyo…… kahit para sa anak nyo nalang!!!!
elaine said,

October 14, 2006 at 8:24 pm

sensya na,,,, may debate kmi sa iskul bout divorce…. and im pro-divorce…. what should i do?? can you give me some advice…?
elaine said,

October 14, 2006 at 8:42 pm

i hate to wreck a family… but…. i change my mind in being anti-divorce, although im still 50-50…. ang gulo no?? but now i can understand why other people likes to be divorce…

i approve that divorce should be legalized in order to stop adultery in our country, and to lessen couples that are living with each other but they dont love each other anymore and also to lessen battered wives in our country, that are common problems in our country…!!
ramela said,

October 16, 2006 at 6:25 am

my idea about divorce is that it gives the couple a choice and it protects children from domestic violence, what’s bad in that? it destroys the sanctity of marriage? please, give a break! tell that to the millions of women who’d been battered by their husbands but weren’t able to do anything about it because, as they say, till death do us part. now that doesn’t sound so sacred to me.

however, before divorce is implemented in the philippines, we should do something about the system first. O_o
bitoy said,

October 21, 2006 at 7:42 am

it is time for the Philippines to release itself from the clutches of the evil and hypocritical local Roman Catholic clergy. our country has been left behind by other nations of the world because of our ill culture that the Roman Catholic Church never wanted to change. aside from having a credible population management program, i am for the institution of DIVORCE in this country.

huwag na nating piliting magsama ang dalawang tao na hindi na dapat magsama pa.
kronos251 said,

October 25, 2006 at 5:22 am

“What God has put together; no man should put asunder.”

What is the point of building a family if you are just going to toss your hands in the air to destroy it?

With a flick of a plastic ball-pen, you have opened yourself wide to numerous problems, thinking all the time that it would solve them.

Marriage must be thought through carefully. Not rushed into like a couple of hormonal idiots.

Consider this in mind: Where is Honesty, Respect, and Decency these days? How could such ideals and convictions be forgotten in this “modern” society?

In the life we lead, we are judged by the decisions we make. There is no honor in this.
anirasz said,

October 29, 2006 at 1:56 am

Ei, peepz,,, tnx. We hav an asssignment kc bwt divorce, me debate kmi. buti na lang i found ur site. i rily learned a lot.me? im pro. life is lyk a pencil, pg ngkamali tau e di burahin mo. ganun rin ang marriage pg nagkamali ka sa pgpili sa partner mo e di try to erase it. kaya nga lang may limit yun. nauubos rin yung eraser dba?
kc said,

November 4, 2006 at 7:01 pm

we have a debate on this kind of situation.. im affirmative! i want the divorced to be legalized here in our country. Divorced is not a sin, Killing is a sin! R u going to wait to be killed by your spouse?! and seen by ur children? because of that unhappy and cruel relationship! dont wait for it to happen.. God did not say, were not allow to change partners or to file a divored.. God says “thou shall not kill!!!”
Vincent Palma said,

December 31, 2006 at 3:13 am

Teacher: ok class… pumili kayo sa isa sa mga “topic” na isusulat ko sa blackboard, tapos gawan niyo ng isang essay… isang papel lang ang pwede niyong gamitin…at ayoko ng maduming papel.. nagkakaintindihan ba tayo?

Class: Yes, mam!!

Pumili ang isang estudyante at nagsimula ng sumulat… Kahapon ay binilhan siya ng nanay niya ng bagong eraser para gamitin niya sa school, kaya kampanteng-kampante siya na hindi mabababoy ang papel niya, kasi may eraser naman siya eh… sulat siya ng sulat… tapos bura dito.. bura doon… At sa sobra niyang pagbubura, napunit ang kanyang papel…

Nang ipinasa na niya sa kanyang teacher ang papel, nagalit iyon..

Teacher: Bakit ganito ang papel mo?! Diba sabi ko ayoko ng maduming papel? Eh, tingnan mo nga, may punit at butas na… Tapos di pa maganda ang pagkakabura mo… May tira-tira pa…

Student: Eh, kasi mam… Nagkakamali po kasi ako sa pagsulat eh..

Teacher: Di ka kasi nag-iisip habang nagsusulat ka.. Sulat ka lang ng sulat…Umaasa ka sa pambura mo.. Kanina pa kita tinitingnan eh.. Bura ka lang ng bura… Di ko tatanggapin ang papel mo…

The end…
Byron Fritz said,

January 3, 2007 at 8:24 am

Im a 17-yr-old boy and I’m on Anti-Divorce…
I believe that whoever God has put together let no man put a under. Once married, the blessing of the lord is the strongest force. I say no to divorce due to three reasons.
>IT VOILATES THE TEACHES OF THE CHURCH
>IT PUTS THE CHILDREN DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY SETTING
>AND IT DESTROYS THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

tHAT’S ALL ^_^

ciAo!
proxy said,

January 8, 2007 at 7:05 pm

if u want just a DIVORCE , why not thinking of just filing it overseas where theres a divorce,?
jmea said,

January 9, 2007 at 1:18 am

i am a third year student.. i have found this website because of our english subject.. we are required to do a DEBATE.. there are two topics for our options.. first, abortion can be legalized and secon, divorce can be legalized. most of my groupmates, including the con, choose divorce. i am included in the group of PROs. so, i try to find anything in the web which will help us win in the debate. and as i find in the google, i find this website. anyway, i wanna thank to all who wrote comments agreeing to divorce, they are one who, yes, helped me. i’ve got many ideas. but, as a third year student, having no husband of course, i dont agree in divorcing. many have said, divorced should be legalized because of the abuses and all of that stuff that their partners have done to them. but why marry them?! yes, people do change. the lesson is, YOU MUST LEARN TO SEE THE LIFE’S CONSEQUENCES.

and to katie, jun, blueblood, and miko: please stop arguing. i dont believe that you know each well, do you?! halos masira na ata all computer parts.. haha!! peace!!
jmea said,

January 9, 2007 at 1:20 am

post script: its not my choice to be PRO. choices had been drawn.
jmea said,

January 9, 2007 at 1:44 am

and to JSEspaldon, people are blessed to answer all of their problems. tahnks to you, and God bless!!

people who agree to divorce and people who do not, thank you very much and God bless.
cliffen nadal said,

January 10, 2007 at 7:33 pm

hello there to all who’ve supported divorce thank you very much.We will having a debate tomorrow,about this issue.I saw this page and i guess it will help me argue with my opponent.Thank you very much and keep on sending your insight……..ok!
JEP said,

January 15, 2007 at 9:40 pm

ano ang punishment ng kabit na lalake, considering na walang asawa yung kabit na lalaki
ulysses malvar said,

January 31, 2007 at 5:49 pm

is there a good effect when having a divorce in the philppines?? and it is necessary??
chrystine said,

February 1, 2007 at 5:36 am

I’m 18. I belong to a broken family, to be specific, my parents were anulled.
Cguro kung may divorce baka ‘yun pa pinili nilang way para mag hiwalay.
I think most of the PRO DIVORCE here would think that I’m also pro. Well
sorry, I’m not. I do respect your opinions though. But, as a daughter of
seperated parents… I can’t still accept that it just ended this way. I mean
who says that divorce would make unhappy couples happier? And so you’re
divorced… what then? Are you really happy? Would you take risk of your
children’s happiness just for your own happiness? Tsaka divorce costs not
just money… but MONEY. Can the common Filipino family afford divorce?
Who’ll benefit, again, on divorce? The rich people… people. And why blame
the catholic church? Instead of blaming ourselves in doing mistakes and
finding ourselves unhappy? Yes I’m doing good in school… learned how to
be much independent… but sana it would have been better kung hindi
‘yung pagkakahiwalay ng parents ko ‘yung lumilitaw na reason. At first, I
ended up finding comfort to my friends instead of to my parents. Hay… sana
malaman n’yo kung gaano kahirap ang magkahiwalay ang mga parents.
Sana huwag nalang tayong mag-isip sa ikasisira ng family.bakit ‘di nalang
natin isipin kung ano ang mas magiging masaya at kung paano magiging
mas matibay ang family. Parang kasi ‘pag may divorce lumilitaw nalang na
connection ng, Mostly, father sa mga anak niya eh sustento. isa pang hayyy…

Cge nga… come to think of this… masaya ba talaga ang mga taong may
tinatawag na “My Ex Husband”? Let’s think more mature people. We would
not want to pirate something again from other countries…

Oh and by the way, Vincent, I love your comments. Well… hope you’ll love
mine too. Alam mo minsan mas may sense magsalita ang mga bata sa
mga matatanda. Minsan lang naman. But I do believe na isa ito sa mga
minsan na ‘yon.

Divorce? Nah!
chrystine said,

February 13, 2007 at 4:44 pm

If you want divorce, then don’t marry. Be single for the rest of your life. If you
can’t follow the rules of marriage, then marriage is not for you. Marriage is a
lifetime commitment not just drinking a cup of coffee. You can’t stay in a
marriage while monitoring for the sprout of errors. You know what’s wrong
with it? It closes the door of fixing things up and talking each other out. I’m
very disappointed. Most of the people don’t know the difference of divorce
from annulment and why the catholic church says yes to annulment and no to
divorce… It’s just simple… In annulment, it takes a long process. So it
exposes the chance of accepting each other’s mistakes. If you want to rush
things up, then maybe there are hidden agendas in your bubble
headed mind. Ok let’s just say, you’re experiencing repeated physical
violence… Can divorce assure you that your EX HUSBAND won’t hurt you
anymore? For others who want divorce just because they fell out of all…
Blame yourself. God, it’s just impossible. Know why couples of other
countries find themselves “OUT OF LOVE”? Because of the word DIVORCE.
They love shortcuts. Hindi naman mauuso yang fell out of love na yan kung
walang way out of it in just seconds. PWEDE BA! TUMIGIL NA TAYO SA KAKAGAYA!
Camille Tan said,

February 20, 2007 at 1:06 am

divorce shud be legalized in the philippines…. there is no use living together when both are always fighting… grrr..
Marichu said,

February 20, 2007 at 8:00 pm

For me, pabor ako sa divorce because a lot of couple now are suffering,
dahil karamihan sa mga lalaki now ay parang santo kung manligaw
pero kapag naikasal na kayo doon mo na makikita ang tunay na ugali!!!
kaya mga girls wag padadala sa mga ipinapakita ng mga manliligaw nyo
para hindi kayo magka problem in the future.
kaya sa mga officer po diyan paki legalized naman ang divorce
sa PHILIPPINES.
Jorely Gem Molina said,

February 21, 2007 at 2:01 am

Majority of the people around the world never get married that quickly. They have the time to think about such eternal commitment before entering such. As a responsible person you should choose properly and decide wisely. Cause marriage is only seperable by death.
kallima_19 said,

February 22, 2007 at 5:29 pm

haaay…walang divorce sa philippines…hindi pwede kz sisirain lang nito ang pagsasama ng mga-asawa…bakit? pwede naman nilang pagusapan ang mga ganitong bagay….matataas na kz ang mga pride nila kaya hindi nila makuhang mag-isip muna bago magdesisyon…kaya maraming bata ang pariwara ngayon eh! dahil sa mga magulang na hindi marunong mag-isip at himdi kayang ibaba ang pride……WALANG DIVORCE DITO……ISIPIN NINYO ANG MGA ANAK NYO……..
john carlo beltejar said,

February 23, 2007 at 7:39 pm

NO DIVORCE
john carlo beltejar said,

February 23, 2007 at 7:46 pm

No divorce!!!!!! hala! bawal yan db???you promise 2 god na magmamahalan kau tapos papayag kayong mag karoon ng divorce?patay!!!!!hehehehehehe! w8 heres my # 09058211710…..
lavinea said,

February 25, 2007 at 5:14 pm

I agree that marriage is a sacred union that should be upheld by all means. Lahat nang comments dito may point talaga, specially when it comes to the psychological effects that divorce/anullment/separation /nullity has to the children.
Basically the main concern is the children’s welfare right? ( never mind that the parents are miserable, they can always work it out amicably :P)

Before i proceed to my point, let me illustrate a situation which is quite common in the Philippines.

A drunkard/ shabog father, it’s 6 pm and the mother hasn’t arrived from work yet (breadwinner). So he calls on his 10 year old daughter to prepare him something to eat, turns out there’s no food at all, so he begins shouting at her and throwing dishes around, and the daughter starts crying, he gets more annoyed and starts dragging his daughter by the hair. The mother suddenly arrives and tries to protect his daughter, so he now starts slapping his wife until she falls to the floor and he kicks her like soccer ball. This isn’t a n out-of-the ordinary scenario..This has happened more than enough times….

So what does the mother do? The only legal remedy in the philippines for this situation is LEGAL SEPARATION, meaning they would still be actually married. An annulment would be too expensive.

If you would like to spend the rest of your life still having some connection to the so-called husband who beat the living daylight out of you, then legal separation is your answer. But take note, you will never be able to remarry, and you should never fall in-love, otherwise there just might be an adultery suit for you, after all fidelity should still be observed.

But then…? what if absolute divorce was legalized?

Then foremost concern is to make the law so that only those who NEED it can avail, and not make it an excuse to demean and mock marriage, making it easy to dissolve. Let us not forget the main reason why couples enter this covenant.

As i said earlier, the welfare of the children is the primary consideration ( that’s what a whole lot of people here say, which i believe as well, why punish them for their parent’s inability to get a long? inabilty or callousness??) there is no such thing as a perfect marriage, but you can certainly die trying

basically it’s all up to the couple, whether there be divorce or not, people will always find ways when they do not want to be together anymore, religion (Jehovah’s witness allows pledge of faithfulness to couples with legal impediments ) and citizenship ( naturalization in another country then filing for divorce) are just some of the ways to do so.
The Philippines and Malta have two things in common: No absolute divorce and Roman Catholicism, inference on their common denominator does not make me less of a Catholic. Divorce in Spain,Portugal and Italy do not make these countries less Catholic as well. ( divorce rate relatively low compared to other non-catholic countries)

TAke care to all
lavinea said,

February 25, 2007 at 5:17 pm

I agree that marriage is a sacred union that should be upheld by all means. Lahat nang comments dito may point talaga, specially when it comes to the psychological effects that divorce/anullment/separation /nullity has to the children.
Basically the main concern is the children’s welfare right? ( never mind that the parents are miserable, they can always work it out amicably :P)

Before i proceed to my point, let me illustrate a situation which is quite common in the Philippines.

A drunkard/ shabog father, it’s 6 pm and the mother hasn’t arrived from work yet (breadwinner). So he calls on his 10 year old daughter to prepare him something to eat, turns out there’s no food at all, so he begins shouting at her and throwing dishes around, and the daughter starts crying, he gets more annoyed and starts dragging his daughter by the hair. The mother suddenly arrives and tries to protect his daughter, so he now starts slapping his wife until she falls to the floor and he kicks her like soccer ball. This isn’t a n out-of-the ordinary scenario..This has happened more than enough times….

So what does the mother do? The only legal remedy in the philippines for this situation is LEGAL SEPARATION, meaning they would still be actually married. An annulment would be too expensive.

If you would like to spend the rest of your life still having some connection to the so-called husband who beat the living daylight out of you, then legal separation is your answer. But take note, you will never be able to remarry, and you should never fall in-love, otherwise there just might be an adultery suit for you, after all fidelity should still be observed.

But then…? what if absolute divorce was legalized?

Then foremost concern is to make the law so that only those who NEED it can actualy avail, and not make it an excuse to demean and mock marriage, making it easy to dissolve. Let us not forget the main reason why couples enter this covenant.

As i said earlier, the welfare of the children is the primary consideration ( that’s what a whole lot of people here say, which i believe as well, why punish them for their parent’s inability to get a long? inabilty or callousness??) there is no such thing as a perfect marriage, but you can certainly die trying

basically it’s all up to the couple, whether there be divorce or not, people will always find ways when they do not want to be together anymore, religion (Jehovah’s witness in good standing, allows pledge of faithfulness to couples with legal impediments ) and citizenship ( naturalization in another country then filing for divorce) are just some of the ways to do so.
The Philippines and Malta have two things in common: No absolute divorce and Roman Catholicism, inference on their common denominator does not make me less of a Catholic. Divorce in Spain,Portugal and Italy do not make these countries less Catholic as well. ( divorce rate relatively low compared to other non-catholic countries)
che said,

February 25, 2007 at 5:23 pm

………….. /ba’t ka pa mag-aasaw kung in the end ihihiwalay mo rin lang ang yung katuwang sa buhay…. dapat pag isipan ng seventy-times seven times because this is very important decision that one should make before s/he decides to enter this kind of life…….
kaye said,

March 5, 2007 at 8:25 pm

do u think dat divorce is the answer??

kung ganoon mga TANGA kayo!!! God binds a man and a woman through the sacrament of marriage…and so marriage is a sacred vow!!!!….ika nga you should be with your partner forever and till death do you part…

kung binubugbog ka e di sumbong mo sa pulis or pumunta ka sa DSWD…
kaye said,

March 5, 2007 at 8:28 pm

gets mo???

ang mga PRO DIVORCE ay kelangan sunugin sa impyerno…
Honey said,

March 6, 2007 at 3:03 am

to jhenn..
kung naging lasinggero man ung asawa mo at wlang trabaho,divorce is not the answer for it..know y?cozif u’ll be married agen and at first ok sya pero pag nag tagal pareho din sya ng unang husband mo, so ano lagi ka nlng mag didivorce?c’mon..be matured enough…i maybe pro divorce for some reasons but still i believe dat Divorce is sholud not be legalized..
ronald said,

March 7, 2007 at 6:26 pm

things change..
Roderick R. Montanez said,

March 7, 2007 at 8:30 pm

Divorce should be legally accepted in our country in a sense of tha
jo angie said,

March 9, 2007 at 7:18 pm

actually,, i searched this kind of forum to gather affirmative ideas to why should the govt legalize divorce in our country.. this is for our school debate.. i am really 13 years old only.. but i really need to gather ideas so thanks to you people who said that divorce should be legalized…
? said,

March 11, 2007 at 3:30 pm

Ok, first of all, even though I’m just 17 and not yet into this ‘marriage and divorce’ thing, my opinion (as well as others) matters.

Anyway, I needed some information about legalizing divorce in the Phil. for a debate I am having in class and I’m in the affirmative side, so thanks to your opinions!

Also, about the biblical issue, there was a verse that say if you want to divorce your wife, you should present a certificate…and so on, probably on ‘Mark’, I’ll just search it again. Just because we are a Christian nation, doesn’t mean we should not practice divorce. God already said it in the Bible it’s okay. But for me, I think that there should be a limit to this divorce to uphold God’s laws. We should not abuse it that much if it is legalized.
angel said,

March 11, 2007 at 7:11 pm

Marriage is a contract… being said so, it’s a legal binding thus it can be terminated.
angel said,

March 11, 2007 at 7:12 pm

Marriage is a CONTRACT… being said so, it’s a legal binding thus, it can be TERMINATED.
shiela\m/ said,

March 12, 2007 at 1:21 am

hmm..nice guys but lets just respect each and everyones opinion…do whatever you want and do whatever you believe.PEACE
hj said,

March 13, 2007 at 7:55 am

Not to legalize Divorce, that’s my stand. First of all, the bond of marriage is sacred and it cannot be terminated by any means such as divorce.
Divorce is not the only way of solving problems within the bond of marriage. It may result to a more complicated matter. Such things are: 1) unspeakable sadness, anxiety, depression, trauma, heart wrenching emotions and much more, 2) people who have been in divorced families have higher rates of alcoholism and other substance abuse compared to those who have never been divorced, 3) in the case of men, are more likely to commit suicide at some point in their lives, 4) also, divorced couple have a high risk of acquiring heart diseases and sexually transmitted diseases, 5) Children of divorced parents are reported to have a higher chance of behavioral problems than those of non-divorced parents, 6)it reduces living standards, 7) There are reports that unhappily married adults who had divorced were no happier than those who had stayed married. These are only some of the many negative consequences that would occur if divorce is legalized.
Now, listen to the benefits that would results if divorce will not be legalized: 1) the rearing of the child will be much better, 2) resources will not be wasted, 3) there is an assurance of stability for the Filipino families, 4) Filipino people will always have a home after a day’s work, 5) there’s a chance for the couple to settle their problems.

basta, ayoko ng divorce. Kng binubugbog ka ng asawa mo, anjan ang R.A. 9262 dba?

Other insights nmn is ung anulment, wherein pwdng mgng voidable ang marriage. Tpz legal separation, kso valid pa rin ata ang marriage. Bahala na ah. Each one of us nmn has his own opinion. Mabuhay ang Pilipinas. 2log na ako, bukas na ang debate. salamat sa mga opinions ninyo. It will help a lot.
georgina said,

March 14, 2007 at 1:44 am

I am a student who crams to construct this persuasive speech in our speech com class. I chose the topic redarding divorce. Upon reading the comments posted, weighing the pro and cons, I have decided to take the side of the pro. marriage nowadays, in general is discriminatory. Especially that of women. admit it our society here in the phils is patriarchal. Once youre married, you stay as a housewife , because that men HAVE to be the breadwinners .. I think divorce gives both gender the equal chance to realize one’s incapacities and shortcomings. you cannot just be confined in one of the unpleasurable angle of life. You have the power to get out from the situations that hinder your potentials of becoming a better person. Hindi lang lalake ang my karapatang makipaghiwalay ngayon. pwede naring mangiwan mga babae.
TOUGHNIGHTS said,

March 14, 2007 at 9:36 am

Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Mat 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away
Mat 19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

OK….IN JEREMIAH 3:8, GOD DIVORCED ISRAEL AND IN MATTHEW 19:9 JESUS CHRIST SAYS YOU CAN DIVORCE IF THE OTHER COMMITS ADULTERY. IF YOU WANT TO BE A GOOD CHRISTIAN THEN DON’T TALK OUT OF ONE SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH. YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE TRUTH; GOD IS A DIVORCEE. JESUS SAID DIVORCE IS REQUIRED FOR ADULTERY. OPEN YOUR EYES CATHOLIC CHURCH!! I BELIEVE THE CHURCH IS PUSHING “NO DIVORCE” BECAUSE THEY WANT FAMILIES TO HAVE MANY CHILDREN SO THEY GET MORE $$ IN THE COLLECTION BASKET. BUT GUESS WHAT, NOW I AM SEPARATED I CANNOT AFFORD TO GIVE YOU A PESO. MAYBE YOU SHOULD SPEND MORE TIME MONITORING YOUR PEDOPHILE PRIESTS INSTEAD OF MEDDLING IN A SOVEIRGN GOVERNMENT. THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL MY LAZY HUSBANDS WHO ABUSE THEIR WIVES AND CHILDREN. WAKE UP FILIPINAS!! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS STEALING $$ YOU NEED FOR A BETTER LIFE. AND NOW THE $$ THEY STEAL FROM US IS GOING TO PAY LAWSUITS ON PEDOPIHILE PRIESTS. HOW MANY PRIESTS DO YOU KNOW THAT HAVE A MISTRESS? I KNOW SEVERAL. WHAT HYPOCRISY!! I AM GLAD THAT JUDGEMENT WILL START AT THE PULPIT. I WONDER IF THE PRIEST’S AND BISHOP’S ROBES ARE FIRE-PROOF? THEY BETTER HOPE THEY ARE. I THINK IT IS TIME WE JOIN THE 20TH CENTURY AND FOLLOW THE WHOLE BIBLE AND NOT JUST SELECTED VERSES THAT SUPPORT SOME MAN’S OPINION ON MARRIAGE. SURE, IF IT IS A MARRIAGE BLESSED BY GOD AND THE HUSBAND AND WIFE ARE FOLLOWING CHRISTIAN LAWS THEN PRESERVE THAT MARRIAGE. BUT IF ONE OR BOTH ARE NON-CHRISTIAN, ADULTERERS, ABUSERS OR FORNICATORS THEN THAT MARRIAGE, BY DEFINITION, IS NOT A CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE AND SHOULD NOT BE PROTECTED. YOU WONDER WHY ALL PRIESTS AND BISHOPS ARE MEN. WHAT ABOUT THE BOOK OF RUTH? WHAT ABOUT MIRIAM IN EXODUS 15:20? AND DEBORAH IS JUDGES 4:4? AND HULDAH OF 2 KINGS 22:14? OR NOAHDIAH IN NEHEMAIH 6:14? DO YOU WANT NEW TESTAMENT PROOF? READ ABOUT ANNA IN LUKE 2:36 AND THE FOUR UNMARRIED DAUGHTERS OF PHILIP IN ACTS 21:7-9. EVEN PAUL TEACHES THAT WOMEN PROPHESIZE. HER IS MY ANALOGY FOR WHAT THE CATHOLIC SHCURCH IS DOING IN THE PHILIPPINES. THINK OF A BUILDING FULL OF PEOPLE AND ON FIRE. THE CHURCH IS TRYING TO SAVE THE BUILDING AND IS IGNORING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BURNING AND DYING INSIDE. THE CHURCH IS TRYING TO SAVE THE INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE WHILE THE PEOPLE OF UNCHRISTIAN MARRIAGES ARE BURNING INSIDE. DON’T THE FIREMEN TRY TO SAVE THE PEOPLE FIRST AND THEN THE BUILDING? YOU MAKE THIS DECISION. TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT WHAT THE CHURCH HAS DONE FOR THE PHILIPPINES. IS YOUR LIFE ANY BETTER NOW? THE WHOLE OF ASIA IS GROWING AND WE ARE BEING LEFT BEHIND IN THE CLUTCHES OF THE INQUISITION. WE ARE THE “WITCHES” BEING BURNED AT THE STAKE BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OF MODERN TIMES. EVEN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ADMITS IT MADE A MISTAKE BACK THEN. DOES GOD MAKE MISTAKES? NO!!!!!!!!! THE CHURCH IS NOT GOD AND SHOULD NOT PROFESS IT IS. KEEP YOUR RULES AND YOUR LAWS IN YOUR CHURCH. YOU HAVE NOT RIGHT TO IMPOSE YOUR BELIEFS ON ME OR ANYONE ELSE. BY DENYING A DIVORCE BASED ON RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURE MAKES THE PHILIPPINES A PRISONER OF A CHURCH THAT MADE MANY MISTAKES IN THE PAST. IS THIS THE GOD THEY SERVE? OH, DID YOU EVER SEE THE VATICAN RICHES AND SPLENDOR WHILE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TAKES EVER FEW PESOS IT CAN SQUEEZE OUT OF US? IS THIS A CHURCH THAT IS BLESSED BY GOD? DID YOU KNOW THAT PAUL IN THE BIBLE NEVER TOOK A SALARY? HE WAS A TENT MAKER AND PAID HIS OWN WAY. DO YOU EVER SEE ANY PRIESTS MAKING “TENTS” OR ARE THEY ALWAYS BEGGING FOR $$ FROM THE POOR PARISHONERS? WHAT DID GOD DO WHEN HE MET A BEGGAR? HE HEALED HIM AND CLEANSED HIM AND HE TOLD HIM TO TAKE UP HIS BLANKET, TO NOT BEG ANYMORE. WHAT DID CHRIST JESUS TELL THE DISCIPLES? DON’T TAKE A BEGGING BAG, NO SCRIP AND DON’T GO FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE GETTING FREE ROOM AND MEALS. WAKE UP FILIPINAS/OS!!! IT IS TIME WE FOLLOWED GOD AND NOT SOME BUILDING OR MAN WEARING A CROSS. IT IS TIME WE SUPPORT CHRISTIAN MARRIAGES AND DISSOLVE SATANIC MARRIAGES FULL OF ADULTERY, FORNICATION AND ABUSE. IF YOU BELIEVE A WOMAN SHOULD BE BEATEN AND HER HUSBAND CAN GET A MISTRESS THEN YOU ARE SUPPORTING THE DEVIL; NOT GOD!!
torerong ewan said,

March 18, 2007 at 6:35 pm

What’s RA 9262? “yun ba yaong sinasabi nilang Violation against women and children? i think, that is not enough….. Kahit na anong republic act pa yan, maraming loopholes na malulusutan…..

BASTA, DAPAT MAPATUPAD NA ANG DIVORCE NA YAN…. I THINK, THE FILIPINO PEOPLE NEEDS IT…… PERO DAPAT, ANG BABAE LANG ANG MAY KARAPATANG MAG-DIVORCE SA WALANG KWENTA, MANLOLOKO, NAMBUBUGBOG, AT PINAKA-DEMONYO NILANG ASAWA!!!!!! PARA MATAPOS NA ANG PROBLEMA NG MGA KAAWA-AWANG MGA KABABAIHANG PILIPINO……

PARA MATAPOS NA RIN NI GMA ANG KANYANG PROBLEMA, PWEDE NA NYANG I-DIVORCE ANG ASAWA NIYANG NAGKAKASAKIT NA SA KATABAAN NG KANYANG BULSA…. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
benj said,

March 19, 2007 at 9:15 am

First, RA 9262 is very deficient. If they’re really up to protecting citizens, it has to apply to everyone - even men.

It’s quite disheartening that a body like a church has a stranglehold on which legislation are passed. Considering that they don’t pay taxes, it surely raises questions on their real clout in government.

Quoting the bible is irrelevant in this debate. The Philippines is not a purely Christian nation. Using a religion’s holy book to decide legislation is very unfair and uncalled for - but then again, this has been happening for the past fifty years.

Divorce is clearly needed in this country and the other side have done nothing but to hammer on outdated biblical “sacredness” that doesn’t even stand in a logical discussion.
nathaniel said,

March 19, 2007 at 8:24 pm

WAG NA KAYONG MKIALAM MGA PARI
WLA KC KYONG CHANCE MGASAWA
INGGIT LANG KYO……..BHEEEEEE
rey said,

March 19, 2007 at 8:43 pm

I agree with divorce kc ano pang dahilan para mgsama pa kayo kung ginagawa ka lang naman na punching bag…..Naiingit lang jan ang iba lalo na ang mga pari kc hindi sila napapaboran…BHEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
james said,

March 19, 2007 at 8:47 pm

“LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKE”…….Dapat iadopt ang divorce para masaya!!!!Sbi nga ni niel sa pbb “BONGGA”..PANO KA MAKAKARAMI KUNG STICK TO ONE KA LANG…..
CARLO said,

March 19, 2007 at 8:51 pm

AGREE AQ SA DIVORCE KC KNG MUKHANG PATA ANG ASAWA M AT WLA NANG ASIM SA KATAWAN NAKAKASAWA NA DIBA…..TAPOS MAS MABUTI NGA UN KC MAS MARAMING ASAWA MAS MARAMING LIGAYA.HAHAHA….AYAW MO NUN ARAW ARAW IBA IBA ANG PUTAHE……..CHIKARON….NAM NAM….SIRAAAAAM……..
DNM said,

March 21, 2007 at 9:21 am

I am a father of 2 beautiful girls aged 6 and 3. Let’s call marriage and divorce or annullment whatever it is as a process of tying or removing. Maraming implications ang bawat action, to marry means to bind with someone (albeit for the rest of their lives supposedly) to divorce or anull is to (break from the binding) wherever you analyze this fully, there is a factor of legality in all aspects. Hanggang sa pagpalit ng pangalan ng babae, pagpalit ng status, etc. etc.. So basically it is a matter of the government to recognise kung alin ang alin. Legitimate or illegitimate, etc. etc., etc. Takot ang Philippine government sa Catholic Church (CC), alam naman natin yun di ba. Pero napaka-insensitive naman ng CC porke’t base sa teaching nila e bawal ang divorce pero inaallow pa rin ang annullment. Come on CC, let’s call a spade a spade. Hindi tayo one size fits all: look at Communism ket China mukhang iba na ang position tungkol sa kanilang economic model. Di dapat makialam ang CC sa matters of the heart. Yes they provide the ceremony, the holiness of the union but kung wala na yung union sa puso ng bawat isa… paano na? Devout Catholic ang family ko, naging sacristan pa nga ako e. Pero this is plain and simple stupidity on the part of the government to be cowed into submission by the Catholic Church. Unconstitutional pa nga ang CC kasi they are going against the statement: separation of Church and State. Isa pang factor is the quality of living. I am working very hard to support my kids. Nasa wife (hopefully ex-wife soon) ko ang mga bata. Because of her mindset of coming from a feeling kayang kaya ang mabuhay. Kaya binaon nya ako sa utang. Noong nagsasama kami, you can cut the tension with a knife and if sumabog its like all hell breaks loose. Mas kawawa ang mga bata because they are exposed to the incessant fighting almost on a daily basis. It’s better off for me to live elsewhere. I’ve found someone else and she brightens my day like I’ve never felt with my ex. It is very frustrating for me to realize that I cannot break the marriage bounds from my ex considering that I am very happy now. The Catholic Church in the Philippines is a communist system. One size fits all. I would gladly be excommunicated na lang kung ganyan ang kanilang position. Sa kanila na lang ang sacramento nila. Pakasal ako sa huwes at mag pa divorce sa huwes. Kung sure ka nga na magiging masaya ka sa CC wedding e di at your own risk na lang di ba. Actually legal married ako at di sa simbahan. Wag nilang i-impose ang the fact that Catholicism is the largest religious group in the Philippines. Its because of the outdated thinking kaya sooner or later (hopefully sooner) Catholics will become the minority. We as a people should become more mature of our choices of religion. Filipinos, remember we are intelligent, we have been given the greatest gift. Our power to choose. We can submit this to a referendum if we must. Why go to the trouble of the congress? Kanya kanya tayo ng laws. Yung mga anti divorce e di sa kanila applicable yung no divorce. Simple lang di ba.
pat-pat said,

March 22, 2007 at 9:58 pm

I am agree with having a divorce in the philippines. nothing is wrong naman with that di ba? it just depend on what a person’s view point in their life basta for me, ok lng may divorce sa phils.

what if sawa na kayo sa isat isa? and for you to legalize ur break-ups, divorce lng naman ang legal diba… kaso wla pa naimplement!
therefore it is better to implement divorce here in the phils…
join-fun said,

March 26, 2007 at 5:34 pm

I think there’s nothing wronhg in implementing the law of divorce..It is a much better for the couples to seperate w/o any hurt feelings..they could still be friends coz they know that thgey are no longer tied up to the vow they’ve made,,,..And how can we say that there is a seperation b/w the law of the state to the law of church,,,if we are just going to follow What the bible say’s…I think its more on the mattwer of analysing the situation you are encountering..and God hates divorce but He never sya that He uis Againts with it…And Having a divorce is a matter of choice..if wanted to stay in a relationship that has no love at all its depend upon you..But my God!!!If we are going to be manipulated by the priest in this issue i will definitely call $ a rally…
JEF said,

March 27, 2007 at 10:11 pm

Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

GOD IS DIVORCED. HE DIVORCED HIMSELF FROM ISRAEL BECAUSE OF FORNICATION. THE SAME SHOULD APPLY IN THE PHILIPPINES IF THE CHURCH WANTS TO FORCE THE BIBLE ON A GOVERNMENT AND A PEOPLE. WHY CAN’T ATHEISTS GET A DIVORCE? THE CATHOLIC CHURCH MARRIED ME TO THE DEVIL. IS THAT A MARRIAGE THAT SHOULD NOT BE DISSOLVED? WAKE UP FILIPINOS AND FILIPINAS!!
Eric Hill said,

April 12, 2007 at 11:14 pm

I admit i am not from the philippines But being from the USA I see divorce in everyones marriage that I know. My own marriage failed due to Adultry on the part of my spouse and through the fighting that came as a result. I learned a lot. I learned that although my marriage could have been saved the resulting adultry made it unrepairable I believe in some cases divorce should be allowed by law like in the cases of abuse. Divorce in the USA gets more common, because it is an easy way out of marriage. and because of this not only people that are married but single people also do not have the family values they used to have. People (married or not) do not respect others relationships or marriages. i see the lack of respect for marriage getting more common with every generation people leave there husband or wife and live with others before the divorce is final. If divorce can be so easy, then there should be stiffer laws against abuse and it should contain a provision to include adultry as a form of abuse. Not as something that is acceptable. marriage is a commitment our parents married for life and are still married their parents married for life and stayed married but with each generation the family unit is destroyed, more and more, because there is less and less family values. because families are disposable for the men and the women. i agree with others when they say if it is easy to get out of a marriage then people will marry knowing it does not have to last and if their is a small problem in the marriage they feel it is ok to get a divorce instead of talking the problem over to make the marriage work after all why worry about a solution in the marriage when you can just go sign a paper and get another spouse. like trading in a car because the new model is more sporty or has more options.
princess said,

May 9, 2007 at 2:09 am

yah know what, divorce should be damn present!!!! ‘coz we can;t stop someone from doin a thing… oh c’mon, mind your own business.. back off!!!
Jesusa Bernardo said,

May 9, 2007 at 4:11 am

If divorce is so unholy and so un-Catholic, why is there divorce in Italy? So close to the Holy See, where did the Pope go “wrong?” Are the Italians, therefore, more of “sinners” than Filipinos?

Of course, that’s not the case. Filipinos simply have an ingrained culture of marital hypocrisy–Sunday-going, supposed believers of God, complete with the “official” wife and kids, but mistress-keepers outside the church. And Filipinos would rather keep the anomalous status quo rather than allow their wives the freedom and respect, along with the financial benefits of a divorce.
jestle said,

May 15, 2007 at 3:36 am

uhhmmm,,, tnx sa inung mga ideas,,, may debate kami bukas and I belong to the negativ side,,,… but I’m 50-50 with regardz to dat topic,,, by the way tnx sa inu lahat,,,.
pamela said,

May 15, 2007 at 4:40 am

all i can say is “thank you”…. we wil going to hav our debate 2morow regarding dis topic…and i learn mny things about divorce(should be legalize in d phil)…bcuz i’m a pro-divorce in our debate 4 2morow…
God bless to all…
angeljay said,

May 17, 2007 at 6:29 am

all i can say is “thank you”…. we wil going to hav our debate 2morow regarding dis topic…and i learn mny things about divorce(should be legalize in d phil)…bcuz i’m a pro-divorce in our debate 4 2morow…
God bless to all…

same situation.. thanks for the info..
Virgel said,

May 22, 2007 at 9:12 pm

Dont get involved with a Filipina….

Below is a dear John IM, that I got from my Fiancee, who I have sent thousands of US Dollars to, for her anulment, money for new computer, several trips for her to go back to the Philippines to see her family, her mobile phone, and many other things for her needs. They will only break your heart, and your pocketbook…

I was willing to do anything for the Love of my life Rowena, but now she was all just a dream, or a nitemare now…

hi honey
just get down to get finn
then maybe we can talk a bit when he is gone to bed
just wantt o discuss something with you
in whats going on between us
you are so good to me
very supportive
trying all your best for me
but lately i keep asking myself if i deserve u
for some reasons…i need u in my life…
because you were helping me a lot and i just cant easily dump you
but i think i am start thinking i am getting unfair with you
i dont want to hurt your feelings…but honey i dont feel anything with you anymore
i try to keep going…trying to believe my self you was still there
but i cant decieve myself
reasons why until now i never send the papers yet
i have no one else with me if you think that way
i just feel maybe because its been too long now maybe the feelings drag out now
i dont want to use and keep believing, i still love u…u are special but i dont like you too suffer a lot
you still keep going with me even i dotn feel anything with you anymore?
god you are so wonderful….but what i dont like to live with you because of personal reasons
how u can handle just to live with me even i have nothing there for you anymore?
i always dream to go to america…and yeah i can do it now in your help
just to attain the goal to go to america i have to marry u…even it means we need both to suffer because the feelings wasnt the same anymore?
no reason at all
maybe its too long now and maybe the feelings is drag becuase of that
i told you becuase you helping me a lot
if i will stop then it is difficult for me
i am very honest with you
if you take it wrong its okey…i have to live by it
but i cant take it now…i need money but i cant keep going doing this to you
you are so good to me thats why i feel this guilty feeling
but the urge to go to america is still with me thats why i want to do it
but i cant sleep last night thinking lots of things
you suffer a lot already….
if i go there and after a year i might walk out with you also
thats what i am fearing for
now i am telling you thios..if you still want to push this even you know my stand already thats up to you
i will send the papers this afetrnoon…if things get through and things never work out with us i wish you wont balme me
sorry for that
i wish things never changed
i know i am stupid and i dont deserve somebody like you
i am sorry
everything is in your hand
if you still want to do this after i confess to you thats all up to you
dont know what to say
you proving a lot of things for me
but let us think over about this
give until next month to decide if we still need to do this
when the filing fee will go raise?
i am not a bitch i want you to know that…but i am not getting fair to you
even i have a hard time working i better not to use anymore….cant take it anymore
you are too good and u deserve the best
i am not the best
cant you see i am not good to you
please stop
dont push your self too much for me i am aint good to you’ even we get married it might also end up into nothing
becuase this is one sided
who doesnt want money? who doesnt want to go to america? i do…but honey i realized i am making you my stepping stone to do it and you are too good to me and it is not fair to you
even you say a words that will cut me i will accept it coz i deserve it
i did before i just dont know why it drags it out
ok say whatever you want to say
i know that
and i am blaming myself for that
thats why cant take it anymore
why u still like keep going even u marry someboy that no feeliongs for you anymore?
somebody
i said its all up to you
give me time to think about this and to sort out myself
i dont want you to suffer becuase of me…i want you to be happy
i am not good to youi know it and please forgive me
at least i am trying to be honest with you now…things i cant say before
i dont want to hurt you…..please understand my feelings
honeyyyyyyyy plsssssssss
i know its hard for me also
bu we need to sort things out especially myself
i understand if you feel frustrated with me…sorry
just try to have a look with others u might find someone much better than me…for me i dont want anymore
i might stay single for the rest of my life
thats what makes me feel guilty yesterday and never put me into sleep
i need money and i know i need more for the future but i have to stop myself now for asking money for you coz i know it wasnt fare
i know you were working hard for this just like what i am doing here and you can get is me being so mean to you
it was all my fault…you never did anything wrong with me…infact you did your best…it was me the problem
sorry…..please forgive me for all the things i have done for you
i dont want to talk about it anymore
just give me time for myself…and i will give you time also to think about this
i dont like you to steak everything wiht you because of stupid woman like me
stake
dont say you still love omggggggg cant you i just used you????
dont say you still love me
i just used you for my own interest
i dont deserve you
maybe one day i will realized the feelings is still there…who knows just want myself give a time to think about this and value all the things we had shared together once again
you are too good for me thats for sure
and even i am saying this you still there for me
i am so lucky
but the problem is my guilty feelings
ou dont need someone like me
i will only hurt your feelings
i wish
please you know the truth already
dont make me feel more guilty about this
i have to go now
please let me think for a while
give me until end of this month
it will help for me think much clearly if i cant recieve any calls or message from you
just give me space
take care and byeeeeeeeee
Steve Schwartz said,

June 12, 2007 at 11:19 am

I agree with Virgel (Article 182). Stay away from Pinays. I made the mistake of meeting Cristina, 21, at Cherry Blossoms internet dating agency . She acted the perfect part as a sweet, young girl with dimples and I was infatuated with her. We communicated for a month online and I decided to meet her in person. I traveled to Cebu, Philipines and I fell even more for her in person. The family, parents, Aunties and others immediately started pressuring me to marry her with a Civil marriage. I was not in my right mind when I agreed and immediatley a “fixer” who is person who expediates marriage license applications was brought in by the family. wityhin 3 days we were married at the 5 star Waterfront Hotel. I paid extra for the presiding judge to be there instead of the Capital Building where Civil marriage are normaly performed.

A day after the wedding , the family starting swamping me for money requests. If they had a need, I was the Bank of America.

I no sooner set foot on US soil, when my wife declared she will stay in the Philippines which was contrary to her talk of coming to the US before we were married. Before we got married she would say how much she wanted a future with me in America and raise a family. She said, “please send 500 dollars more a month so i can get a bigger apartment and feel like a married woman”. This came after me telling her I am getting a Spousal Visa for her to come to the USA. She later admiited she wanted a bigger place for her parents and her to live in. She said she did not want to leave the parents “because they need me”.

As you can imagine, I became livid when she said she is staying in the Philippines. I cut off all funds and she cut off all communication with me. I wanted to reconcile our differences and meet her in July 2007 to talk about it. She said via email she changed her feelings about me and no longer loves me. She claimed that a letter from her lawyer is being sent to me (have not seen it yet) and something like I was “stalking” her.

Being we were married under Phillipine law, I reminded her that only the foriegn spouse can initiate divorce proceedings out the Philippines. I also reminded her that we are married until either I die or the current marriage laws change.

I am sure there are some good women in the Phillipines. My only bit of advise to a man wanted to marry a Filipina is “BEWARE”. Get to know them well and do not rush into marriage. When you marry a Filipina, you marry her family too.
arian said,

June 13, 2007 at 11:44 pm

yesm its true if you marry a filipina you marry also her family but not all.. all i can say to all foriegner man plzz be carefull with the filipina specially in chery blosom and filipina heart. if i were you dont give money just meet then in person or know her in 6 months.there are some girls making drama be carefull also a ladies in cebu city mostly are dishonest ,and goldeger .
cielo said,

June 18, 2007 at 8:41 pm

to virgel and steve… well since uve been victimized by cruel filipinas.. i dont blame u for saying those things… yes indeed it happens most of the time.. filipinas look for someone who can satisfy their needs, specially their family’s needs and no other easy way to do it than to marry an american… when u have dollars, u seems to be able do anything u want… though some filipinas took advantage of u, still same reason that they only wanted their family to have a better future by looking someone who can give all their needs specially to have something to eat… blame all that to poverty and laziness of filipinos… yes i am a filipino… and dont get me wrong.. i love philippines… i love being filipina… but we have this attitude in us that we depend too much to others… we dont have the so-called independence… inpendence where we can support our needs alone without the help of others… initiative on what to do to survive… though im not speaking this in general, but hate to say, we are known as these to other countries… filipinos, why not we try to put ourselves higher than what we are now? try to make a difference… where other countries be able to see that filipiinos are not just up to the “domestic helper, factory workers”… and lets try to burry the ‘prostitute level’ filipinas are known to….. i know there are a lot of talented, intelligent filipinos out there… lets try to make a difference.. try to shout to the world, that filipinos can also make it on top…

and oh well, to those who are into cyber romance… just an advise, dont get too much involved with each other until u meet her in person… be it a filipina, european, american…. all can act.. all can pretend to be someone in the net… they can make u fall hard for her… dont trust too much… i do always chat.. im always online.. but i only look for a good chat.. just looking for someone to talk to… make new friends… but not surpasses friendship… i only get involved with someone i had spent time with in person…

have a good day to all! mwuah!
cielo said,

June 18, 2007 at 8:47 pm

ooopppssss…. i think my message was lost in topic… hahahha oh well.. speaking of divorce.. i still dont know what to say… lol… i can state a lot of pros n cons on both side… still have to think and analyze it… lol ill be posting mine soon…
mike said,

June 21, 2007 at 9:43 pm

pls. lang aprubahan na ang divorce. pasayahin nyo naman kami bago mamatay………………..
Bitoy said,

June 29, 2007 at 12:12 pm

it is time for the Philippines to move on to the modern times by legalizing divorce and having a credible and effective population management program. if we will continue to listen to the idiotic, moronic and hypocritical local Roman Catholic Church and conservative groups, we will all be stuck in the Dark Ages just the way they like it to be.
Virgel said,

July 1, 2007 at 8:56 pm

A little bit more about my last posting. #182

I did go to Hong Kong 2 times to see Rowena, January 2004, and February 2007. And I asked her in November 2003 to be my Fiancee. So this was a long relationship, with us being with each other in person for 19 days. So now as of July 1st 2007, she has told me hands off her now, and she wants back her life. As far as I am concerned I never took away her life in the 1st place. I found out online that she was also involved with a guy Dean from Australia, from March 2004 to June 2005, and she was susposed to be my fiancee during this time. But now it looks like I was her banker all along. She is no better than the whores in Wan Chai who spreads their legs for money, only thing different is that she she allows Men to fall in love with her too. Sad that their are people in this world who are beautiful as Rowena on the outside, but their heart and soul are as rotten spoiled meat. I will survive this bad experience in my life, and I will be better because of it.
ransdee said,

July 2, 2007 at 8:48 pm

does anybody know what’s the status of the bill proposed by LIZA LARGOZA-MAZA?
Paolo said,

July 5, 2007 at 8:02 am

1. Right now, only Malta and the Philippines don’t have divorce laws.
2. About illegitimate children… Why can’t we include, along with a DIVORCE LAW, to legislate another set of laws protecting the interest of the children in the event of a divorce.
3. Point is, we have to think of the parents too. If the relationship isn’t working for them, why force them to stay in it? Is it still a marriage if husband and wife HATE each other to DEATH? On paper maybe, but we know otherwise.
Gulper said,

July 13, 2007 at 8:52 am

Divorce should be allowed in Philippines simply because it will be an option or plausible solution (just like not having a divorce) for a seemingly unsalvagable dysfunctional marriages. Now, whether this will be advantageous or disadvantageous to any estranged couple or their children is almost entirely a function of ones perspective (hence a matter of civilized discussion for the couple). The point is, they should be given that option- divorce so that they can’t think better and not be limited to a rigidly constrained catholic point of view.

It is the inherent duty of the state, in any democratic society to provide its citizens with such options and put a mechanism of maximizing and guarding this laws. So I don’t know why the Philippines still wallows in creating one.

Since I opened my eyes to this country and even before I got separated from my exwife (seven years now), I has been a pro-choice as always. Give the Filipinos the “divorce” option. For those christians who don’t want divorce despite their ailing unhappy marriage, let them be. The new divorce law should not force them to.
kath_ said,

July 29, 2007 at 2:43 am

uhm..thnx sa mga comments nio sobra dme q n22nan..well ANTI-DIVORCE din aq..even though broken family aq..walng mdudulot ang DIVORCE kung iimplement 2 sa PHILIPPINES..,mas lalo lang magsuffer ang mga tao if DIVORCE would implement..hai,,di basta basta ang marriage kya dapat b4 pumasoksa ganun..think first..ika nga sbe ni SIR FLORES decision making toh..hehe..un lng..thnks 4 reading..

..kath03
chirry nd catherine said,

July 30, 2007 at 1:12 am

ang gulo nyo!!! wala dito ang hinahanap namin!!! kainiz! ASSIGNMENT PA NAMIN TO!! nonsense ang mga comments nyo!!!
lorenzo said,

August 5, 2007 at 8:08 am

kaya gusto nyo ng divorce eh dahil sa utak nyo at pusong bato!
the first thing all you need to know is the reason why are you alive is because of is because of divorce? think again!
Tom Cadoll said,

August 8, 2007 at 11:49 pm

I am a 32 year-old man who was subjected to my parent’s divorce at the age of 10. Both of my parents were very young and immature when they married. My father was an abusive, angry drug-user who physically and emotionally battered my mother, my siblings and me. The years my parents spent together “for the sake of the children” were the most difficult and damaging years of my childhood. Every aspect of our family life was quickly disolving and ALL OF US where miserable.
Finally, my parents divorced. The result was economic, emotional, and developmental hardship for us all. My brothers and I tried our best to live an ordinary life while my mother, who had custody of the three of us, worked nearly non-stop to provide us with the necessities of life.
It took quite a few years before we began to stabilize our lives. Eventually, my parents both found other people who they married. Both of their marraiges are succesful, and they are living considerably better lives.
I know that a lot of people out there have suffered from the ugly side of divorce as a child to divorced parents, or a man/woman divorced from your spouse, and I truly sympathise. I agree that divorce is ugly and, as stated, had to experience it for myself. However; I support the right to seek divorce for ALL individuals. The dark side of divorce is temporary if you will let it be, and you will find strength and happiness from the trial if you seek it.
My advice, if it counts for anything, is this:
- To the Spiritual (Religious); try loving yourself a bit more, and following the generally misinterpreted, or self-serving, word of a two-thousand year-old text a bit less. If God exists, surely serving in misery is not his (her?) intention.
Your church and your beliefs are a right; as is your free-will. Be not afraid of allowing yourself, and others, to choose. Be not afraid to make your own decisions.
- To the Unhappily Married; I agree that many use divorce as a “convenient” escape in case of tough times. Look honestly and carefully inside yourself. Ask if you’ve given your very all, and can you give more? Remember that there must have been a time when the two of you were complete because of each other.
As for staying together for the sake of the children and family; well, life’s tough. It’s two sides of the same coin. Stay together and risk your children’s misery; divorce and risk your children’s misery. There is no saying that either is better for your family. The best approach in dealing with your children is honest communication and support from both parents (divorced or not). Your children deserve it.
-To the Students; remember the words you wrote on the day. Look at them again in five years, after you’ve been through more than just the trials of high school, and see if you still agree. Look again in ten years, afetr you had the oppurtunity to experience the dark and light side of love and the crazy things it makes us all do, and see then if ou still agree.
- To the Children of Divorced Parents; stay strong. Your life will get better if you let it. Be willing to let go of the hurt, and you ‘ll be fine. Trust me; I’ve been through it.

Oh, and in the specific case of Philippine Divorce Law, my son and I hope to see some serious change. His mother and I would love to marry, but should that never be a choice that we have; we will live on together very much in love. Isn’t that what’s most important?
MOMMY said,

August 29, 2007 at 10:27 pm

The father of my child and I would love to marry but unfortunately his first marriage must be annuled (Although they were already devorced). We all knew that annulment is very expensive! Her x-wife is now living happily in Texas, USA with her new husband and their 2 kids. Isn’t that unfair? They were devorced for (4) four years now and yet because of our law here in the Philippines he is not still allowed to get married. PLEASE OPEN UP YOUR MINDS PEOPLE……………….
jade said,

September 24, 2007 at 9:52 pm

thanks poh sa mga comments nyo poh sa segment na ito!!!!!!!!! you help us to make our researches more inspiring!!!!! nagamit poh nmin ang inyong mga messages para sa aming debate this coming Friday(September 28, 2007)
thanks poh tlaga!!!!!!!MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!!
arturo_da pogi said,

September 24, 2007 at 10:02 pm

I’ve learned a lot on the comments that you’ve been submitted here. it helps me to think much better for making decisions in this hot hot hot issue.now i’ve made my decisions to became one of the member of pro-divorced. so want to join us??? just placed your comments below this article….. GOD BLESS TO ALL FILIPINOS TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
tine said,

September 28, 2007 at 10:01 pm

me as afilipino citizen,,sang ayon ako sa mga magdidivorce dahil bakit pa nila papatagalin iyong marraige nila kung wala na rin lang pagmamahalan diba…alam kong ang mga anak din ang masasaktan pero diba mas masasaktan sila kung nakikita nilang ang kanilang mga magulang ay hindi na nagmamahalan?????
naughtyinsane said,

October 1, 2007 at 5:57 am

i for one do not agree to a law that will implement or make DIVORCE legal. why?
its absolutely deviating from wat is customary and wat is divine inference.
its a fact that philippines is one of the catholic countries in the southeast asia, and being a catholic country its a big impression dat we have given such importance to that of sacredness of marriage. and being that responsible brings a couple in a gud path as to maintain their relationship more uprightyly and harmoniously.
divorce is not applicable to a country lke philippines because there are norms and customs and traditions that we need to follow for us to be more fruitful and responsible being
zazi said,

October 4, 2007 at 2:16 am

wuuh..dis kind of site was really great, i’ve learn a alot from you guyz.. actually namomoblema ko kung ano maganadang stand sa devorsce ng mga pro and anti.. now im really in the side of pro devorce!.. it doesn’t matter what’s the church said its all up to you if ur not happy then leave it.. don’t suffer from your mistake.. life is always a choice..! and that’s for real.. tnx dami ku nakuhang idea..!
annikz said,

October 4, 2007 at 5:20 am

Your right edward Barsabal!! Im agree to that.. even though im too young for this topic.. for me its an interesting topic! and for this topic,it only depends on the situation of the two couple!
zazi said,

October 4, 2007 at 7:15 pm

ano po ba magandang arguments anout sa devorce?
WALTER said,

October 16, 2007 at 4:07 am

to those who wrote in this blog THANKS for the info…….
now i can prepare for tomorrows debate, October 17.
kevin said,

November 17, 2007 at 11:10 pm

ayos comments..=)..thanks sa lahat..
pero para sakin..anti divorce ako..hehe…peace out!^^V
Mishie said,

November 21, 2007 at 11:41 pm

Thanks to this blog.. Meron na kong assignment sa debate..
SET THEM FREE. Thank you!
Frank said,

January 9, 2008 at 4:32 am

thanks to this sit. I have enough info to do my debate tom…
marjorie said,

January 16, 2008 at 2:46 am

4 me it shud not really be legalized.. know y???
y did u marry a person f u wud only plan a 2 hav a divorce.. ayt???
dats y u shud rily think f u want 2 marry aperson olredi…..
Julius said,

January 22, 2008 at 6:13 am

Nobody get married just to have a divorce, that’s absurd. Couple seeks divorce because their original dream of having a happy, loving and peaceful family do not work no matter how hard both husband and wife try to resolve their issues. When love and respect no longer exist inside the marriage and abuse and violence seem to be the only thing that is present in the relationship then divorce is an option if not the ultimate solution.

I am married with 2 kids, my wife left me in exchange for a better life in the US. She applied for a dissolution of marriage in the US which petition was granted by the US court and I was left to be the only one hoping that our marriage will still work coz I’m here in a country that opposes divorce while she’s out there in the US with her new family…
maksin said,

January 27, 2008 at 3:58 am

Thanks for your comments.. I am now ready for our debate on Tuesday. x)
hopewell uwaechia said,

January 27, 2008 at 7:00 am

i really enjoyed the comments.i really think something has to be done about this divorse issue.i mean i believe this is another form of slavery.nothing more.although i’m a nigerian,i have a phillipine girlfriend who is also bonded to this god forsaking law.Gloria aroyo should do something,it shouldnt be the church thing,let the government protect its pple.it is very very sad.i love my girl,and she loves me too,but this law has not favoured us.she has a 5yr old girl from a man who is just too lazy and unconcerned about his daughter and wife.pls!phillipines live in the present,and not the past,GOD ALSO WILL NEVER FORGIVE THE CHURCHES FOR ENSLAVING THEIR PEOPLE.I wait for the day i can call my joy,ASAWA.she’s a loving woman.i wonder why a man will loose such hard working and loving,wife and mother.may God save u fillipinos from this law.alis na ko!
caren said,

February 1, 2008 at 6:27 pm

mownin to all…tnx for sharing all your comments coz we will be having dabate about this controversial issue….i respect all your opinions…God bless u all…
caren cruzat said,

February 1, 2008 at 6:40 pm

I respect all your opinions regarding divorce….I am strongly against divorce coz I believed on God’s word..Divorce will only destroys the sanctity of marriage and pyt children into dysfunctional family setting. Divorce only causes problems and it is nothing but a destructive catalyst along homosexuality and the decline of morals….There’s also legal aspect why I am against divorce. It’s the fact that the 1987 constitution mandates the sanctity of marriage and adopting divorce would in effect shatter that concept of family. I hate to see our country going the way of United States w/c is fast becoming a country of broken families, misguided and confused children w/ their parents divorced and living in w/ other partner……..tnx…..God bless u all…..
tesai said,

February 4, 2008 at 6:21 am

goodness..thanks to this i have something much better to say on our debate. think i know maksin here.:P
lashneyonzber said,

February 18, 2008 at 8:42 pm

negative kmi para my grade kami d!!! lamat gid uy!!!
aying_rod said,

February 21, 2008 at 9:28 pm

y not go wid devorce? if its the solution of being misserable! as long as both parties cud still supply the need of thier youngs. go on devorce b24 its too late, b4 both parties go on to the serrious crime!!!
sheibest said,

February 24, 2008 at 5:21 am

devorce???buang mo??..from the word itself, can’t be trusted..then onli those bastards are saying they are pro w/ it!
mona said,

February 24, 2008 at 10:42 pm

hay guys thank you…i have so many things to say in my debate class 2morow…im on the affirmative side..
jm said,

February 25, 2008 at 6:46 pm

its nice reading your comments but remember that how can a state “protect and strengthen the family,” if it condones the break up of its very foundation, which is MARRIAGE. the words of the constitution are unmistakable: marriage is an inviolable institution. Divorce would violate or desecrate marriage.
gantle maiden said,

February 27, 2008 at 12:32 pm

why go for marriage if it only ends in divorce….first thing first is that think million a times before entering marriage.
michael said,

March 5, 2008 at 1:32 am

Thanks for your comments.. I am now ready for our debate
CHARLES DSOUZA said,

March 9, 2008 at 12:37 am

Sir,
I have a friend in philippines who was married ten years back.She had two children.But unfortunately her husband abandoned her and went to Dubai to marry another fillipino.How can she get divorce ? What are her children rights with the father who has abandoned?Kindly clarify

Regards
Charles
edna said,

March 20, 2008 at 8:27 pm

for me, the church is also correct, but divorced must be legalized here in the Philippines in specific reason, such as wife battering, domestic violence, the husband is addict, irresponsible…if those people want divorce be legalized here for their personal reason so you must keep your mouth shout.. yes, every person has their freedom of choice but sometime you must be sensitive for the things that happening around you..every time you had a problem in your husband for unreasonable reason, you think that your life is miserable….don’t make a decision immediately… instead calm your mind and think about it… if the relationship still work so pursue it if not that the time you will make a decision…but divorce and annulment is the most torturous thing that we made in our life….and the most affected people who will also suffer the miserable thing that happen in your life is your children… so in my own opinion be sensitive to the feeling of your children and talk to them heart to heart so that they will understand the reason why you are not happy anymore w/ your marriage…don’t blame the catholics church for their are opposing to the divorced law.. i understand the side of the church; they want the marriage of the couple be sacred or holy…

i hope this argument… or disagreement between the church and politics will be resolve….
John said,

April 12, 2008 at 5:16 am

All,

Not ever marriage is consented to by the choice of both parties and I have not seen any posts as of yet on this issue. I have a lady friend who was forced into a marriage by her parents at the age of 16. This was about 30 years ago when parents dominated their daughters choices. I know things are different today. This lady was pushed against her will in to a marriage she wanted no part with. The man from day one refused to provide for the marriage and forced him self apone her when ever he wanted producing three children that he would not support. This lady had to scratch for food from her friends or relatives and after trying to leave him he took her children and threaten to kill himself and them. She final escape her hell and fleed abroad to work to support her children. She has been away from her personal hell now for more that twenty years now. Yes all of you on this forum who beat you chest and bellow religious quotes and spote about the sanctity of marraige remember their are thousands of phillipina out there who were never given a true choice but had there marriage arrainged do you condeme these ladies to your religious hell on earth forever.
Joe said,

April 28, 2008 at 8:33 pm

I am married to a girl who I didnt love, Naawa lang ako coz I got her pregnant then I marry her because of the child but We didnt live together because at that time I have a girlfriend whom I truly love, I didnt tell her the situation Ive been through,it takes months b4 she knows the big mistakes that I’ve done, she left me,she wants me to be with my child but I can’t live without her, after 3 misirable months without her, I go back to her and beg for her forgiveness and acceptance,I promise her that I will do anything to be with her. If only I could turn back the time I was stupid to marry the girl I dont love, Now I know the child is not enough to love someone and be happy.
divorce and annulment are my hopes to be with her, to marry the girl I truly love. I dont want to be misirable all my life because of one mistakes I’ve done.
Fe said,

August 1, 2008 at 9:22 pm

heloo have a bless day 2 all Filipino’s!!!

wel , i just want 2 express my opinion about this topic,,
i bearly say that i dont agree about divorce,,!! hmmp, it is because
marriage is hlly one , it must be treasured and nurtured .. we are all created by God 2 follow his will.. do i make sense?? so by this according 2 d God’s word that marriage should be bind .. and supported by other verses.. kya pumasok ang isang tao sa isang bagay dhil alam nya na happy xa bd?! but in the end pala my mga consequenses na nag occur during their pagsasama.. so by this, peope should b responsible for their action they must choice nd think twice b4 they decyd 2 enter such thing.. so , f people experiencing miserable life.. y dont they examined their self??? but if u truelly believe in the message of God.. then God will definitely make a good thing out of it!! i believe that living a miserable life is one way that God want you 2 change 4 better and be the one 2 change d scenario of ur lyf.. think all the positve side of the corner in you life! i know that khit naka experience ang isang tao ng false marriage their is a brightr syd of it nman that must be save….!!!!

nd divorsed is not a mere sulotion of it!!!

- FE CELMAR -
Fe said,

August 1, 2008 at 9:32 pm

come 2 think of it!!!! wt if all the people would do such thing as divorsed?
anu na kaya ang mangyayari sa worl?? would it be happy??
so try 2 think of it!! cant u imagine!!!……
aljoy said,

August 5, 2008 at 10:33 pm

if marriage is not working.. then divorse is the solution..
shein said,

August 26, 2008 at 4:52 am

i think divorce should be legalized! cmon people! try to think, you living with someone you’re not happy to be with??? being divorced for no reason is stupid, YES! I agree! but staying in a relationship that is not working??? HELLO!!! wake up!!! GOD said that it is okay to be divorced if you have the right reasons, and I don’t think the church should hold everyones decisions, especially with this one. if this two couples stay together fighting, what would be the future of their children. I’m only 16 but come to think of it, divorce is a good thing if there are proper reason or reasons for doing it.
Babegirl04 said,

October 16, 2008 at 4:59 am

a lot of people are against divorce because it’s against the teachings of the church! what hypocrisy!!! adultery, pre-marital sex and fornication are also against the teachings of the catholic church but that didn’t stop many people from doing it. i’ve seen many couples get married with a baby on the way in catholic churches. you only say you are not in favor of divorce bec u haven’t experienced being in a failed marriage yet. why not open your minds and think about people who are trapped in failed marriages? who wants to fail? nobody of course! but we are not perfect and even though we have been very careful in choosing our partners, we still make mistakes. i agree that divorce is not good but sometimes it is the only solution. do you think that people get marry thinking of divorce? we all have dreams of forever. but sometimes things doesn’t work out. we never truly get to know the person we married until we’re living with them. a husband who cannot keep a job and does not provide for his family breaks his vows. it is unfair to expect the wife to stay in that union and be the one to provide for the family.
let divorce be legalized and you people who are against divorce, don’t divorce! it doesn’t mean that if divorce is legalized in our country, that everyone will be divorcing. there are still people out there who have found their true partner and they will stay together till death part them. not everyone finds this kind of partnership though. so give us a chance to find it also. don’t make us suffer for our past mistake.
annulment is just like divorce in the sense that the married couple separates and are free to remarry again. and the catholic church approved it. so why not divorce? there are many asian countries where divorce is legal but have many happy families also. it is not the law that makes the family strong …. it is the persons themselves who when they’re convinced they found their equal and help meet in life will do all in their power to keep the marriage going.
and why are you always comparing our country to US? we are definitely unlike them! we have high crime rates due to poverty. just to survive, some people resort to theft. the catholic church should stop meddling and dictating the government and work for the good of the people instead. just like what the monks are doing in thailand when there are people starving….the monks open their coffers and feed the people! now that’s what i call faith that works!!!
Darwin said,

January 13, 2009 at 12:13 pm

…i am a religious person and i believe da word of GOD,,, i know from the bible no one can divorse the married, and i believe that if you make a divorse you dont beliv in GOD’s word’s. . . kung nagkakaganyan kau e kagagawan nyo rin yan .. .
ally rhose said,

January 13, 2009 at 2:02 pm

panu po b advise nio nga sa english ung …
athird year student who ran away from home..
begin the statement with, I ADVISE YOU TO
adelfos said,

February 3, 2009 at 7:08 pm

1. ANG DIBORSYO AY HINDI NAAYON SA SINASABI NG KONSTITUSYON.
Sinabi ng isang Obispo, “A divorce bill would be unconstitutional because
the constitution say something about the protection of the family as the
basic social unit.”
flor said,

March 9, 2009 at 3:35 pm

Legalizing Divorce in the Philippines will give suffering spouse a chance of a peaceful and happy life. In an ideal world, divorce will not be needed but we don’t live in an ideal world. Many marriages in the Philippines are surely not an ideal marriage. Most of us go into marriage with love for our partner and hope for a happy family life with loyalty,respect,fidelity and trust as the foundation. But when all this values are destroyed by an abusive spouse, for the victim spouse, there is no escape because the Philippine law is keeping her imprison in a destructive marriage. We claim to be a christian country that follow christian ideals, yet many of our law makers and religious officials turn a blind eye on the suffering of spouses and children who are in an abusive and disharmonious marriages. Double standards abound and are silently accepted. Philippines is now a society where husband can have affairs because “men will be men” and the dutiful wife will have to be apace with the thought that “as long as he will come home to you because you are the original wife, it’s OK”! What values are we teaching the children, that it is alright for spouses to be abusive and degrade each other. In this situation the covenant of marriage becomes a useless paper lacking the commitment and responsibility to abide and fulfill the real meaning and value of the marriage union. Divorce might not be ideal but it will surely give so many suffering spouses a second chance of a meaningful life.
ghee said,

March 25, 2009 at 6:30 pm

Hi…every One,,,,,
I’m from Philippines! yes i’m affirmative side of divorce that should be legalized her in philippines…The legalization of divorced here in the philippines is a long time issue in our country but until now, we cannot resolve this kind of social issue in our country..Iam standing in front of you to convince you that the legalization of divorce in our country can preserve the dignity of a battered wife.
Angel said,

April 3, 2009 at 6:56 am

Yes to Divorce bill. If you don’t want it, dont have it…but let others have a choice!
bhe2 said,

July 1, 2009 at 11:59 pm

hello!!!d ako sang-ayon sa devorce!my topic din kami ngayon.
jhano said,

July 3, 2009 at 2:31 am

wala dapat devorce!!!

icpn nyo family nyo!!anak,,apo,,lolo,,lola,,tatay,,nanay gusto ko tinapay, gusto q kape>>

hehehe basta wala dapat nun..
PERIOD.
jezzylyn said,

July 12, 2009 at 4:35 am

♥as a student of cicosat[high school student]♥
.,,.,.well for me devorce is not the solution
.,.it depends to the person who would like to cut there reletionship,what they have now
.,.,naks kawawa naman mga anak at mga iba pa ninyong kasambahay sana di nyo nalang ginawa kung hindi nyo rin kinakatuwa
.,.,sana isipin nyo muna bago nyo gawin kung tama o mali ang ginagawa nyo?
.,.,kaya sana tayong mga kabataan mamili tayo ng tapat, at mapagkakatiwalaang tao
.,,.hindi porket mayaman,gwapo,at maporma sya na,hindi yun
.,.[sabi nga nala what is the use of beauty when your brain is empty diba]♥
.,.,piliin natin ng tama?
..yun lang ahjeje

Divorce in the Philippines

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